[okfn-advisory] Open Knowledge International Advisory Council - reaching out

Sat Feb 24 15:28:36 UTC 2018

Hi Naomi - thank you for reaching out.

Count me in please. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Best regards,
Denis

On 24 February 2018 at 12:08, glyn moody <glyn.moody at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Peter on pretty much everything there. happy to talk if
> it is going to help...
>
> On 24 February 2018 at 12:05, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Thanks Naomi,
> > Feel free to share with anyone relevant.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Naomi Lillie <naomi.lillie at okfn.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> May I introduce you to Mark Gibbs (COO) and Paul Walsh (CPO), in CC, who
> >> are undertaking the overall leadership of the organisation since Pavel's
> >> departure late last year.
> >>
> >> Paul and Mark are looking to reboot OKI - particularly our Advisory
> >> Council, where we are very keen to re-engage. They would like to reach
> out
> >> to you to look at how the Advisory Council can guide OKI through this
> period
> >> of change, refocusing on our vision and mission, and looking ahead to
> new
> >> opportunities.
> >
> >
> > I have valued my association with OKF (sic) very highly, both informally
> and
> > on Open Definition, Open Science and Open Access  and felt that OKFest
> > Helsinki 2012 was one of the high points in my Open life. I have given a
> > great deal of voluntary time to OKF. I know that OKF->OKI was a painful
> > process and wanted to help. When Omidyar required a review OKF (ca
> 2014??)
> > the reviewer spent a lot of time with me - which was useful. However
> > afterwards I expected that as a member of the Advisory Board I would get
> a
> > copy of the confidential report. In fact this was refused and I have
> never
> > seen what the recommendations were and have never been consulted since. I
> > talked (online) with Pavel to represent my concerns but it seemed clear
> that
> > I was not wanted.
> >
> > I now have no idea what the formal mission of OKI is and what - at a less
> > formal role - it does on the ground. I still have random contacts with
> the
> > Open Access, Open Science and Open Definition lists and I think I am
> still
> > formally on the latter but haven't seen business recently.
> >
> >>
> >> We wondered whether you would be interested in joining a call in March,
> to
> >> touch base and consider how we connect in future. Do let us know if you
> >> would be interested in this, either as a group or individually.
> >
> >
> > I am interested because of my past association and input.  I used to
> enjoy
> > very much going to OKF events both in UK and annually. But I don't know
> > whether OKI runs events in UK any more. I had mentally reserved this
> years
> > OKFest-redux to reconnect - meet people, get ideas - but that got
> cancelled.
> > I think that unless I actually meet people I probably don't have enough
> > input and output.
> >
> > As some of you know I have set up my own non-profit, ContentMine, to
> > liberate public scientific knowledge from the unjust enclosures of the
> > megapublishers and universities (yes). In some since this is a microcosm
> of
> > part of OKI - working in a smaller area but based on Advocacy, Community
> and
> > Tools - very similar to OKI's mission. In fact we shared an H2020
> project -
> > FutureTDM - between OKI (Sander vdW) and ContentMine. It suffered from
> the
> > awful bureaucracy of Europrojects, and none of us felt happy. So I am
> > aligned at a general level.
> >
> > I have seen many organsiations got through a "10-year glitch" - examples
> are
> > Wikipedia, PLOS, OKF, where the founders move on having created a
> non-profit
> > with high ideals but  a more business-focussed team and less space for
> > visionaries. They get involved the business process (necessary,
> especially
> > legal and financial) but they lose the dynamism of I the initial vision -
> > working in Rufus' basement or ContentMine working in Makespace craft
> room. I
> > loved the C4 space in London - where you could drop in and meet people. I
> > loved OKCon in London. I miss them. I think Wikimedia has pulled
> through, I
> > think PLOS has lost everything, I don't know about OKI.
> >
> > Put another way - and perhaps harshly - what are the specific challenges
> > that OKI is involved in where I might be able to contribute? I am not
> > particularly good at running organizations so can't help with the general
> > process of how to run a non-profit with established staff, premises,
> etc. If
> > there are specific challenges that OKI is involved with I'd be
> interested to
> > see whether I had something to contribute.
> >
> > I will certainly join the call. The clearer that I can see the immediate
> > challenges and the long term vision, the more useful I will be.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > P.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Murray-Rust
> > Reader Emeritus in Molecular Informatics
> > Unilever Centre, Dept. Of Chemistry
> > University of Cambridge
> > CB2 1EW, UK
> > +44-1223-763069
> >
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>
> Glyn
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