[@OKFNau] does your home have a smart meter? Are you on Github
Charlie H Ward
charlie.h.ward at gmail.com
Sat Dec 6 10:02:42 UTC 2014
Hi Lachlan
I haven't replied to your two questions I this thread because I see from your pull request you worked it out. But do shout if you have any questions.
Thanks
Charlie
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> 1. Re: does your home have a smart meter? Are you on Github?
> Read on... (Omid Ameri)
> 2. Re: Central ckan or other repository for Aus data? (Hugh Stephens)
> 3. Re: Central ckan or other repository for Aus data? (Steve Bennett)
> 4. Re: does your home have a smart meter? Are you on Github?
> Read on... (Lachlan Musicman)
> 5. Re: does your home have a smart meter? Are you on Github?
> Read on... (Georgina Wilcox)
> 6. Re: Central ckan or other repository for Aus data? (Steve Bennett)
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> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 23:35:00 +0800
> From: Omid Ameri <oameri at gmail.com>
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> Hi
> The same kind of data is available in usa. Why you need Aussie one?
> Any how this data is extremely confidential and no one has this right to
> give it to anybody. Because this is about lifestyle and householders
> privacy.
> Cheers
> Omid
>
> Sent by my mobile.
>> On 03/12/2014 9:22 PM, "Lachlan Musicman" <datakid at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, sorry. I'm just very cynical re big business and my data. Am
>> about to upload - Charlie, where do you want them? In the examples
>> folder? Also, am *I* incrementing the XX number?
>>
>>
>> On 1 December 2014 at 10:04, Georgina Wilcox <georginawilcox at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm not in any way an expert, but there is some information about the
>>> Privacy Act (1988) here:
>> http://www.oaic.gov.au/privacy/privacy-resources/privacy-fact-sheets/other/information-sheet-private-sector-4-2001-access-and-correction
>> ,
>>> in particular an individual's right to request a copy of information
>>> held about them. There has also been more recent privacy reform just
>>> this year.
>>>
>>> However -- in negotiating something like this, perhaps it is best to
>>> start with the friendliest possible tone, and only start quoting dates
>>> once you hit a blank wall. It might take longer, but then again it
>>> might not, if it doesn't occur to anyone that this might be something
>>> they want to deny you. I mean, logically, why would they? that would
>>> be crazy...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Charlie,
>>>>
>>>> What is the easiest way to get our provider to give us a copy of that
>> data?
>>>>
>>>> I ask because, in my cynicism, I presume they will evade and try to
>>>> not provide. Is there language I can use? Like:
>>>>
>>>> "according to the Blah Act of Victorian Parliament in 2008, you are
>>>> required to give me this data on request..."
>>>>
>>>> or some such?
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> L.
>>>>
>>>>> On 25 November 2014 at 15:17, charlie <charlie.h.ward at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> I?ve started a very modest little project on Github relating to
>> Australian
>>>>> smart meter data. See
>>>>> https://github.com/charliedotau/Smart-Meter-File-Format-Examples-Aus
>>>>>
>>>>> I need your help. If you have a smart meter, live in Australia and
>> you?re
>>>>> on GitHub, I?d love your help in collating as many examples as
>> possible of
>>>>> the different file formats used by Retailers and Distributors to supply
>>>>> their customers with their electricity usage data.
>>>>>
>>>>> More details in the link above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks kindly
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>> http://what.agreenidea.org
>>>>>
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>>>>> okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
>>>>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-au
>>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-au
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
>>>> thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
>>>> and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
>>>> MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
>>>> intelligent when talking to your friends.
>>>> This post was STUPID.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
>> http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html
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>> --
>> You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
>> thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
>> and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
>> MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
>> intelligent when talking to your friends.
>> This post was STUPID.
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
>>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:04:08 +1100
> From: Hugh Stephens <hugh at dialogueconsulting.com.au>
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> Subject: Re: [@OKFNau] Central ckan or other repository for Aus data?
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> Hi guys
>
> Long time listener, first time call/emailer. Just dropping in to say that
> if people are really keen to have an AU community-specific CKAN
> installation I'm happy to auspice/support it...I luckily carry quite a bit
> of Amazon credit for their Sydney endpoint, as well as Softlayer's
> Melbourne facility so we'd actually get a choice of datacentre....or
> potentially it could even be something an AU host like Serversaurus might
> actually give a comp cluster to use.
>
> Obviously that's more effort than datahub.io ? but just wanted to put my
> hand in the ring for technical assistance and/or server credits if it is
> something that people are interested in.
>
> Hugh
>
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>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Pia Waugh <pia.waugh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nick, I only just saw this email sorry. Too many I have :) But it
>> sounds like you've converted something that is already available publicly
>> just not in a data format, so there is a small possibility we might be able
>> to convince the data custodian of the original data to publish your
>> converts. Please email data.gov at finance.gov.au and we will look into
>> it.
>>
>> PS - regarding who can publish on data.gov.au, it is a government data
>> portal, so it has government data :) Publishers are generally government
>> data custodians. I know of a few portals for community data but Open
>> Australia seems the most likely group for open data relating to democracy
>> and parliament in Australia IMHO. Those guys rock.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Pia
>>> On 21/12/2013 10:09 AM, "Nick Evershed" <nick.evershed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been doing a fair bit of work recently to convert federal politician
>>> expense PDFs into nice, machine-readable formats. I was wanting to make the
>>> data more accessible, so was wondering what the best way might be to do
>>> this. Can you submit data to data.gov.au if you're not actually in a
>>> government department? Is there a similar central respository for aus data?
>>> If not, are there any plans for one?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Nick E.
>>>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:21:32 +1100
> From: Steve Bennett <stevage at gmail.com>
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> Hi everyone,
> Nice to see this thread suddenly come to life :)
>
> A closely related topic came up at the Open Knowledge Melbourne meetup last
> night: is it possible for volunteers to get datasets published *on behalf
> of* Government? That is, where there is an appropriately authorised public
> servant who says in email "Do what you have to to get this dataset on
> data.gov.au, but I don't have time to deal with it".
>
> Some other moderately relevant tidbits:
> - for a while there was http://localdata.net.au, a CKAN instance hosting
> data from three South Australian councils, but it seems to have gone
> recently. I don't know who was running it. It claimed to be open to
> anyone-ish.
> - I started a list of where various bodies are publishing to:
> https://github.com/OKFNau/OpenDataRepos (Not sure if it's really
> maintainable, but if anyone is interested, jump in.)
>
> Steve
>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Pia Waugh <pia.waugh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nick, I only just saw this email sorry. Too many I have :) But it
>> sounds like you've converted something that is already available publicly
>> just not in a data format, so there is a small possibility we might be able
>> to convince the data custodian of the original data to publish your
>> converts. Please email data.gov at finance.gov.au and we will look into
>> it.
>>
>> PS - regarding who can publish on data.gov.au, it is a government data
>> portal, so it has government data :) Publishers are generally government
>> data custodians. I know of a few portals for community data but Open
>> Australia seems the most likely group for open data relating to democracy
>> and parliament in Australia IMHO. Those guys rock.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Pia
>>> On 21/12/2013 10:09 AM, "Nick Evershed" <nick.evershed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been doing a fair bit of work recently to convert federal politician
>>> expense PDFs into nice, machine-readable formats. I was wanting to make the
>>> data more accessible, so was wondering what the best way might be to do
>>> this. Can you submit data to data.gov.au if you're not actually in a
>>> government department? Is there a similar central respository for aus data?
>>> If not, are there any plans for one?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Nick E.
>>>
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>>> okfn-au mailing list
>>> okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
>>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-au
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> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 10:28:56 +1100
> From: Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com>
> To: "Open Knowledge discussion list for Australia."
> <okfn-au at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [@OKFNau] does your home have a smart meter? Are you on
> Github? Read on...
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> Omid,
>
> I think Charlie is looking for examples of the data formats, rather
> than the data itself.
>
> The idea being that an all purpose analysis tool can be built that
> will be able to be used by anyone with a smart meter (within the
> privacy of their own home) regardless of inconsistent data formats and
> standards.
>
> Cheers
> L.
>
>
>> On 4 December 2014 at 02:35, Omid Ameri <oameri at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>> The same kind of data is available in usa. Why you need Aussie one?
>> Any how this data is extremely confidential and no one has this right to
>> give it to anybody. Because this is about lifestyle and householders
>> privacy.
>> Cheers
>> Omid
>>
>> Sent by my mobile.
>>
>>> On 03/12/2014 9:22 PM, "Lachlan Musicman" <datakid at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, sorry. I'm just very cynical re big business and my data. Am
>>> about to upload - Charlie, where do you want them? In the examples
>>> folder? Also, am *I* incrementing the XX number?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 December 2014 at 10:04, Georgina Wilcox <georginawilcox at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm not in any way an expert, but there is some information about the
>>>> Privacy Act (1988) here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.oaic.gov.au/privacy/privacy-resources/privacy-fact-sheets/other/information-sheet-private-sector-4-2001-access-and-correction,
>>>> in particular an individual's right to request a copy of information
>>>> held about them. There has also been more recent privacy reform just
>>>> this year.
>>>>
>>>> However -- in negotiating something like this, perhaps it is best to
>>>> start with the friendliest possible tone, and only start quoting dates
>>>> once you hit a blank wall. It might take longer, but then again it
>>>> might not, if it doesn't occur to anyone that this might be something
>>>> they want to deny you. I mean, logically, why would they? that would
>>>> be crazy...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the easiest way to get our provider to give us a copy of that
>>>>> data?
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask because, in my cynicism, I presume they will evade and try to
>>>>> not provide. Is there language I can use? Like:
>>>>>
>>>>> "according to the Blah Act of Victorian Parliament in 2008, you are
>>>>> required to give me this data on request..."
>>>>>
>>>>> or some such?
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> L.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 November 2014 at 15:17, charlie <charlie.h.ward at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I?ve started a very modest little project on Github relating to
>>>>>> Australian
>>>>>> smart meter data. See
>>>>>> https://github.com/charliedotau/Smart-Meter-File-Format-Examples-Aus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need your help. If you have a smart meter, live in Australia and
>>>>>> you?re
>>>>>> on GitHub, I?d love your help in collating as many examples as
>>>>>> possible of
>>>>>> the different file formats used by Retailers and Distributors to
>>>>>> supply
>>>>>> their customers with their electricity usage data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More details in the link above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks kindly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>> http://what.agreenidea.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> okfn-au mailing list
>>>>>> okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
>>>>>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-au
>>>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-au
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
>>>>> thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
>>>>> and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
>>>>> MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
>>>>> intelligent when talking to your friends.
>>>>> This post was STUPID.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
>>> thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
>>> and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
>>> MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
>>> intelligent when talking to your friends.
>>> This post was STUPID.
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
>>>
>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html
>>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
> thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
> and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
> MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
> intelligent when talking to your friends.
> This post was STUPID.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
> http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 10:51:38 +1100
> From: Georgina Wilcox <georginawilcox at gmail.com>
> To: "A List for Open Knowledge Networks in Australia."
> <okfn-au at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [@OKFNau] does your home have a smart meter? Are you on
> Github? Read on...
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>
> Hi Omid,
>
> I'm sure that Lachlan wanted access to data about his own energy usage.
> This would be useful in order to better inform his usage and efforts to
> save energy.
>
> Georgina
>> On 5 Dec 2014 10:24, "Omid Ameri" <oameri at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> The same kind of data is available in usa. Why you need Aussie one?
>> Any how this data is extremely confidential and no one has this right to
>> give it to anybody. Because this is about lifestyle and householders
>> privacy.
>> Cheers
>> Omid
>>
>> Sent by my mobile.
>>> On 03/12/2014 9:22 PM, "Lachlan Musicman" <datakid at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, sorry. I'm just very cynical re big business and my data. Am
>>> about to upload - Charlie, where do you want them? In the examples
>>> folder? Also, am *I* incrementing the XX number?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 December 2014 at 10:04, Georgina Wilcox <georginawilcox at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm not in any way an expert, but there is some information about the
>>>> Privacy Act (1988) here:
>>> http://www.oaic.gov.au/privacy/privacy-resources/privacy-fact-sheets/other/information-sheet-private-sector-4-2001-access-and-correction
>>> ,
>>>> in particular an individual's right to request a copy of information
>>>> held about them. There has also been more recent privacy reform just
>>>> this year.
>>>>
>>>> However -- in negotiating something like this, perhaps it is best to
>>>> start with the friendliest possible tone, and only start quoting dates
>>>> once you hit a blank wall. It might take longer, but then again it
>>>> might not, if it doesn't occur to anyone that this might be something
>>>> they want to deny you. I mean, logically, why would they? that would
>>>> be crazy...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Charlie,
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the easiest way to get our provider to give us a copy of that
>>> data?
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask because, in my cynicism, I presume they will evade and try to
>>>>> not provide. Is there language I can use? Like:
>>>>>
>>>>> "according to the Blah Act of Victorian Parliament in 2008, you are
>>>>> required to give me this data on request..."
>>>>>
>>>>> or some such?
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> L.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 November 2014 at 15:17, charlie <charlie.h.ward at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I?ve started a very modest little project on Github relating to
>>> Australian
>>>>>> smart meter data. See
>>>>>> https://github.com/charliedotau/Smart-Meter-File-Format-Examples-Aus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need your help. If you have a smart meter, live in Australia and
>>> you?re
>>>>>> on GitHub, I?d love your help in collating as many examples as
>>> possible of
>>>>>> the different file formats used by Retailers and Distributors to
>>> supply
>>>>>> their customers with their electricity usage data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More details in the link above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks kindly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>> http://what.agreenidea.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> okfn-au mailing list
>>>>>> okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
>>>>>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-au
>>>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-au
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
>>>>> thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
>>>>> and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
>>>>> MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
>>>>> intelligent when talking to your friends.
>>>>> This post was STUPID.
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> okfn-au mailing list
>>>>> okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
>>>>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-au
>>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-au
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous
>>> thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that
>>> and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT
>>> MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound
>>> intelligent when talking to your friends.
>>> This post was STUPID.
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment of All Time
>>>
>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html
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> From: Steve Bennett <stevage at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [@OKFNau] Central ckan or other repository for Aus data?
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> Awesome. So maybe let's flesh out the use cases. What problems does this
> solve?
>
> 1. Data from government but improved by the community
> 2. Data generated outside government, but broadly useful
>
> 3.
> I wonder if we could also use this approach to solve another problem I'm
> starting to notice, which is: Data that belongs together, but is split
> across different levels of government, different jurisdictions, agencies
> etc.
> For example:
> - a health data portal
> - an environmental data portal
> - a bike data portal (eg, data from VicRoads, other states, local councils,
> OpenStreetMap extracts, community generated [subjective] data)...
>
> IMHO, it will be easier to encourage reuse of data if we can point people
> to "healthdata.org.au" rather than "there's some stuff on data.vic.gov.au,
> some on data.gov.au, also check out the council websites of X, Y and Z...".
>
> (If this is too tangential, please ignore. :))
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Hugh Stephens <
> hugh at dialogueconsulting.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Long time listener, first time call/emailer. Just dropping in to say that
>> if people are really keen to have an AU community-specific CKAN
>> installation I'm happy to auspice/support it...I luckily carry quite a bit
>> of Amazon credit for their Sydney endpoint, as well as Softlayer's
>> Melbourne facility so we'd actually get a choice of datacentre....or
>> potentially it could even be something an AU host like Serversaurus might
>> actually give a comp cluster to use.
>>
>> Obviously that's more effort than datahub.io ? but just wanted to put my
>> hand in the ring for technical assistance and/or server credits if it is
>> something that people are interested in.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> --
>> *Hugh Stephens*
>> *Director*
>> Dialogue Consulting
>>
>> *p*: 1300 846 768
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>> *m*: 0431 304 464
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>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Pia Waugh <pia.waugh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Nick, I only just saw this email sorry. Too many I have :) But it
>>> sounds like you've converted something that is already available publicly
>>> just not in a data format, so there is a small possibility we might be able
>>> to convince the data custodian of the original data to publish your
>>> converts. Please email data.gov at finance.gov.au and we will look into
>>> it.
>>>
>>> PS - regarding who can publish on data.gov.au, it is a government data
>>> portal, so it has government data :) Publishers are generally government
>>> data custodians. I know of a few portals for community data but Open
>>> Australia seems the most likely group for open data relating to democracy
>>> and parliament in Australia IMHO. Those guys rock.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Pia
>>>> On 21/12/2013 10:09 AM, "Nick Evershed" <nick.evershed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing a fair bit of work recently to convert federal
>>>> politician expense PDFs into nice, machine-readable formats. I was wanting
>>>> to make the data more accessible, so was wondering what the best way might
>>>> be to do this. Can you submit data to data.gov.au if you're not
>>>> actually in a government department? Is there a similar central respository
>>>> for aus data? If not, are there any plans for one?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Nick E.
>>>>
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