[okfn-br] Convite Planejamento OKBr 2016
Ariel Kogan
ariel em ok.org.br
Terça Junho 21 15:17:07 UTC 2016
Muito obrigado Tom!
Thiago, por favor enviar os relatórios desde que você assumiu o projeto.
Helô, em relação a adiar esse encontro de planejamento, prefiro manter para
o Tom conseguir participar (ele viaja para Europa no dia 26). Acredito que
ele tem muito para contribuir, principalmente com o histórico de projetos,
parceiros, entre outros.
Se for necessário, podemos marcar outra data em Julho.
Abraços!
Ariel
Em 21 de jun de 2016 11:59 AM, "Everton Zanella Alvarenga" <tom em ok.org.br>
escreveu:
>
>
> 2016-06-20 12:30 GMT-03:00 Heloisa Pait <heloisa em ok.org.br>:
>
>>
>> Para mim a prioridade é saber em que pé está, concretamente, o Gastos
>> Abertos.
>>
>
> Concepção inicial do projeto:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_PtWGm7oGgY8JY0IOcrIWnVxbxis0aB9rHWdL5U7ZpM
>
> Alguns dos relatórios iniciais repetidas vezes enviados:
>
> - Hitórico resumido (dezembro 2014 a abril 2015):
> https://github.com/okfn-brasil/documents/blob/master/gastos_abertos/gastos_abertos_historico.md
> - Relatório (abril 2015):
> https://github.com/okfn-brasil/documents/blob/master/gastos_abertos/gastos_abertos.md
>
> - Organização do que havia sido feito num documento enxuto:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PbIXwJPhREFYoYuUftyTW8zwC03bp-GfSkPeTKEx_rE/edit
>
> Os novos relatórios:
>
> - Relatório enviado para o financiador (março 2016):
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5Uf8J2NlhindFFzTEpMSmhZMWM
>
>
> Respostas a alguns questionamentos do último relatório.
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Edward Y. Wang <ewang em tides.org>wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you again for following up on this. I’ve touched base with my
>> colleague Tanya Pham and had a moment to review your reports. The next step
>> would be for me to forward the reports to the Google team and recommend
>> release of your next grant payment. HOWEVER, before I can do that, I have a
>> few questions regarding your reports.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Can you elaborate on why you changed your strategy, to shift
>> your effort and spread the work to other Brazilian cities? Is it because
>> you’ve exhausted all access to data in Sao Paulo, or are you trying to get
>> better data representation by replicating the work in other cities?
>>
>
> We had been working mostly with São Paulo city data. After working with
> this data (spending stories <http://gastosabertos.org/historias/>,
> courses <http://gastosabertos.org/blog/tags/escola_de_dados/>, APIs <
> http://api.gastosabertos.org> and data scrapping and analysis), we
> realised it's not sustainable to keep this work of *searching* all data
> for two main reasons: 1. the costs to analyse and work with the actual data
> is higher than we expected and 2. some of the data used on our spending
> stories took longer to have an answer from the public bodies through our
> access to information law.
>
> Mainly for these reasons, we are moving forward to a strategy of building
> key partnerships to bring data to our platform (CKAN for budget data and
> automatic API), and our guides, build upon our previous experience, will
> provide means for these local brigades to work on budget and spending data
> doing tasks similar to what we have done so far.
>
> Regarding the partnership, in October we'll have local elections, so we
> will reach several mayor candidates around the country to sign a commitment
> letter to use our budget data platform sending us this data. For that, we
> are working with the NGO Rede Nossa São Paulo <
> http://www.nossasaopaulo.org.br/>, that has a huge experience in doing
> this kind of work.
>
>
>> 2. Was there any delay in meeting your objectives for Year 1? If
>> so, why? I ask because your report was due in September 2015 and was
>> submitted in March 2016.
>>
> Yes, there were some delay on our deliverables and the main reasons were:
> 1. it took more time that we expected to analyse the data and build our
> products (API, searching platform for contracts, data visualizations) and
> 2. as we have predicted for the project risks, it took longer than expected
> to have access to some data of our spending stories, even our journalist
> and team using our (recent in Brazil) access to information law.
>
> As for the report, I was reporting all our progress and challenges of the
> project mothly to the consulting firm Google hired to support and follow
> our work (they had direct contact with Google.org), so I believed
> everything regarding this was fine. I tried to find this initial letter
> Tanya sent me with this award letter, templates and dates for the report,
> but I didn't find it. This award letter was actually one thing I've asked
> in 2014 for the bank to accept the wire transfer of the first isntalment,
> but I've never received, hence taking 2 more months for we begin to spend
> the grant (it actually started in November 2014).
>
> Since last November I've also asked to googlers in touch of us the the
> consulting firm support who should I talk to about the second instalment,
> but I never got an answer, until Tanya's e-mail here.
>
> --
> Everton Zanella Alvarenga
> Open Knowledge Brasil
>
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