[okfn-cz] Beth Noveck: Demand a more open-source government

[Matej Kurian]

Romane,

dik za video. Po kratuckom zamysleni - ano aj nie.

1) niektore krajiny organizuju aktivne hackathony alebo sutaze za ucelom 
zlepsenie sluzieb/vyuzitia dat
2) automaticke zverejnovanie moze mat samo osebe preventivne ucinky (vid 
zverejnovanie zmluv, hoci meranie tohto je hladanie psa, ktory nestekal)
3) znizuje to transakcne naklady pre vela vela ludi, ktori by sa inak na 
hocico zamerane na transparentnost/accountability vykaslali.

Coho sa trocha bojim je je, ze zverejnovanie bude viest k zbavovaniu sa 
zodpovednosti. Nieco na styl - ved to bolo na webe, nic ste nepovedali. 
Mohli ste. Smolik.

Transparentnost je nastroj. Moze pomoct. Nemusi. Prehnana 
transparentnost a transparentnost bez kontextu skodi.

Inak, diskusia v podobnom duchu v The New Republic (Lessig a ine 
hviezdy) - http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/against-transparency

Pekny den,
m.

On 9/17/2012 3:02 AM, Roman Řípa wrote:
> Zdravím
>
> Mimochodem, ve videu níže k Matějově předchozí otázce:
>
> Let me be very clear, 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#746658>and 
> perhaps controversial, 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#749718>that 
> open government is not 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#751187>about 
> transparent government. 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#753976>*Simply 
> throwing data over the transom doesn't change 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#755949>**how 
> government works*. 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#758867>It 
> doesn't get anybody to do anything with that data 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#760280>to 
> change lives, to solve problems, and it doesn't change 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#762847>government. 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#766556>What 
> it does is it creates an adversarial relationship 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#767827>between 
> civil society and government 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#770846>over 
> the control and ownership of information. 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#772574>And 
> transparency, by itself, is not reducing the flow 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#775618>of 
> money into politics, and arguably, 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#778202>it's 
> not even producing accountability as well as it might 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#780613>*if 
> we took the next step of combining participation and 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#783347>**collaboration 
> with transparency to transform how we work*. 
> <http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#786809> ...
>
> R.,
>
> Dne 17. září 2012 8:49 Roman Řípa <roman.ripa at rozpocetverejne.cz 
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>     Zdravim
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>     Trochu motivace na začátek týdne
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