[okfn-cz] Beth Noveck: Demand a more open-source government

Tue Sep 18 08:31:20 UTC 2012

Ahoj,

k tématu (včetně tématu o kterém psal Matej před několika dny) dva aktuální
díly jednoho článku Rufuse Pollocka na OKFN blogu:

http://blog.okfn.org/2012/07/24/managing-expectations/
http://blog.okfn.org/2012/09/13/managing-expectations-ii-open-data-technology-and-government-2-0/

Ve zkratce hlavní myšlenky:

- I think it is important that we, and others, are *realistic about what
will be achieved and on what time-scale*.
- There’s a *danger if open data is seen as a panacea that will magically
solve climate change or eliminate corruption because it will inevitably
fail to do so and hope and enthusiasm will be replaced by disappointment
and dis-engagement*.
*- Understanding and action requires attention*: analyzing and acting on
information requires time and attention and these seem to be (increasingly)
scarce. Crudely put: do I go out to the cinema with my friends or do I read
up on the latest draft law?
*- Open information and technology will often be complements to
institutional change not substitutes*.

Michal

2012/9/17 Matej Kurian <kurian at transparency.sk>

>  Romane,
>
> dik za video. Po kratuckom zamysleni - ano aj nie.
>
> 1) niektore krajiny organizuju aktivne hackathony alebo sutaze za ucelom
> zlepsenie sluzieb/vyuzitia dat
> 2) automaticke zverejnovanie moze mat samo osebe preventivne ucinky (vid
> zverejnovanie zmluv, hoci meranie tohto je hladanie psa, ktory nestekal)
> 3) znizuje to transakcne naklady pre vela vela ludi, ktori by sa inak na
> hocico zamerane na transparentnost/accountability vykaslali.
>
> Coho sa trocha bojim je je, ze zverejnovanie bude viest k zbavovaniu sa
> zodpovednosti. Nieco na styl - ved to bolo na webe, nic ste nepovedali.
> Mohli ste. Smolik.
>
> Transparentnost je nastroj. Moze pomoct. Nemusi. Prehnana transparentnost
> a transparentnost bez kontextu skodi.
>
> Inak, diskusia v podobnom duchu v The New Republic (Lessig a ine hviezdy)
> - http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/against-transparency
>
> Pekny den,
> m.
>
>
> On 9/17/2012 3:02 AM, Roman Řípa wrote:
>
> Zdravím
>
>  Mimochodem, ve videu níže k Matějově předchozí otázce:
>
> Let me be very clear,<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#746658>
>  and perhaps controversial,<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#749718>
>  that open government is not<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#751187>
>  about transparent government.<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#753976>
>  *Simply throwing data over the transom doesn't change<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#755949>
>  **how government works*.<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#758867>
>  It doesn't get anybody to do anything with that data<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#760280>
>  to change lives, to solve problems, and it doesn't change<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#762847>
>  government.<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#766556>
>  What it does is it creates an adversarial relationship<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#767827>
>  between civil society and government<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#770846>
>  over the control and ownership of information.<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#772574>
>  And transparency, by itself, is not reducing the flow<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#775618>
>  of money into politics, and arguably,<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#778202>
>  it's not even producing accountability as well as it might<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#780613>
>  *if we took the next step of combining participation and<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#783347>
>  **collaboration with transparency to transform how we work*.<http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TEDTalks_video+%28TEDTalks+Main+%28SD%29+-+Site%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher#786809>
>  ...
>
> R.,
>
> Dne 17. září 2012 8:49 Roman Řípa <roman.ripa at rozpocetverejne.cz>napsal(a):
>
>> Zdravim
>>
>>  Trochu motivace na začátek týdne
>>
>>
>> http://www.ted.com/talks/beth_noveck_demand_a_more_open_source_government.html
>>
>>
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