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"Representing the free software movement, Richard Stallman stated in a
speech on October 2004 that:

The use of Flash in websites is a major problem for our community."

Cavalry, dismount high horses.

chad


On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Matthew Brett <matthew.brett at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:17 PM, William Waites <ww at styx.org> wrote:
> > Forwarding since okfn-discuss silently eats messages from
non-subscribers
> >
> > ----- Forwarded message from Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org> -----
> >
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:33:34 -0400
> > From: Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>
> > Subject: Re: Sysadmin sessions on IRC + skype
> >
> >
> >    Helping Skype/Microsoft collect data and encouraging proprietary
> >    software seems like a very strange activity for the Open Knowledge
> >    Foundation. I cannot help but be extremely disappointed.
> >
> > Data collected by Microsoft, and perhaps handed over to Big Brother,
> > is not open data.  It is not what OKFn should promote.
>
> It does seem reasonable to give a large benefit of the doubt to the
> open alternatives.
>
> Are they really so far inferior in quality or usability?
>
> I know each individual choice of closed source can seem minor, but
> they can have a cumulative demoralizing effect.  Disappointment is not
> a productive state...
>
> See y'all,
>
> Matthew
>
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Correct me if I&#39;m wrong, but doesn&#39;t Big Blue Button require Flash?=
 How open is Flash?=A0<div><br>From the Wikipedia entry on Flash:<br><br>&q=
uot;Representing the=A0free software movement,=A0Richard Stallman=A0stated =
in a speech on October 2004 that:<br>
<br>The use of Flash in websites is a major problem for our community.&quot=
;<br></div><div><br>Cavalry, dismount high horses.</div><div><br>chad</div>=
<div><br></div><div><br>On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Matthew Brett &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:matthew.brett at gmail.com">matthew.brett at gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>&gt; Hi,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:17 PM, William W=
aites &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ww at styx.org">ww at styx.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;=
 &gt; Forwarding since okfn-discuss silently eats messages from non-subscri=
bers<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; ----- Forwarded message from Richard Stallman &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:rms at gnu.org">rms at gnu.org</a>&gt; -----<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;=
 &gt; Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:33:34 -0400<br>&gt; &gt; From: Richard Stal=
lman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rms at gnu.org">rms at gnu.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: Sysadmin sessions on IRC + skype<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt=
; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; =A0 =A0Helping Skype/Microsoft collect data and encoura=
ging proprietary<br>&gt; &gt; =A0 =A0software seems like a very strange act=
ivity for the Open Knowledge<br>
&gt; &gt; =A0 =A0Foundation. I cannot help but be extremely disappointed.<b=
r>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Data collected by Microsoft, and perhaps handed ov=
er to Big Brother,<br>&gt; &gt; is not open data. =A0It is not what OKFn sh=
ould promote.<br>
&gt;<br>&gt; It does seem reasonable to give a large benefit of the doubt t=
o the<br>&gt; open alternatives.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Are they really so far inf=
erior in quality or usability?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I know each individual choic=
e of closed source can seem minor, but<br>
&gt; they can have a cumulative demoralizing effect. =A0Disappointment is n=
ot<br>&gt; a productive state...<br>&gt;<br>&gt; See y&#39;all,<br>&gt;<br>=
&gt; Matthew<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ______________________________________________=
_<br>
&gt; okfn-discuss mailing list<br>&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:okfn-discuss at lists=
.okfn.org">okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.=
okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss">http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listi=
nfo/okfn-discuss</a><br>
<br></div>

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