[okfn-discuss] Keeping DRM out of HTML5

Wed May 15 22:22:12 UTC 2013

FYI are already an organisational signatory to:

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/sign-on-against-drm-in-html

On 15 May 2013 23:48, Pieter Colpaert <pieter.colpaert at okfn.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> Daniel +1 - We should take a public stance against DRM in HTML5 (and in
> general).
>
> I think it would be interesting to summarize this in 3 solid arguments +
> an alternative in a blog post on okfn.org. If there's a consent, I'm
> willing to give a kickstart to such a blog post.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Pieter
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Daniel Dietrich <
> daniel.dietrich at okfn.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Herrmann,
>>
>> I think the OKFN should publicly reject DRM in general and as a whole.
>> HTML5 is just one aspect of this battle.
>>
>> But thats just my humble opinion, interested to hear what other think.
>>
>> All best
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 15 May 2013, at 23:08, Augusto Herrmann <augusto.herrmann at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Since the WWW 2013 conference is happening this week, and this issue is
>> in discussion there, I though this an opportune moment to revisit the topic.
>> >
>> > Do you guys think the OKFn should publicly reject DRM as a whole, or
>> add to the campaign against it in HTML5, as the FSF and EFF have been
>> doing? Even a blog post discussing why this is bad for open knowledge could
>> be useful at this moment.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Augusto Herrmann
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Aaron Wolf <wolftune at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > yes, sorry about my typo. We're clear. Public endorsements of negative
>> things cause more harm than any potential upside of luring your enemies
>> into your camp or whatever.
>> >
>> > All political positions matter in terms of how they inspire others, not
>> just for the technical details.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Aaron Wolf
>> > wolftune.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Karsten Gerloff <gerloff at fsfeurope.org>
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 01:06:04PM -0400, Aaron Wolf wrote:
>> > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Karsten Gerloff <
>> gerloff at fsfeurope.org>wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Looking at the, ahem, "success" of
>> > > > technologies such as Flash and Silverlight, they're welcome to
>> > > > try.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I must say, I know this is just a turn of phrase, but they are NOT
>> welcome
>> > > to try more of this. We need to keep working to have a culture that
>> shames
>> > > these attempts even when they are failed attempts.
>> >
>> > I fully agree.
>> > >
>> > > And that said, the idea of TBL endorsing DRM is destructive. Whether
>> it
>> > > possibly has any utility in bringing the systems to light where they
>> can be
>> > > rejected, if the goal of rejection isn't PUBLIC then it's bad for the
>> > > culture. We can have respectable people telling the culture to
>> respect DRM.
>> >
>> > s/can/can't, right?
>> >
>> > > This is a cultural battle more than a technological one.
>> >
>> > Quite so. If Tim Berners-Lee has a strategy here, I hope it's a
>> > very good one. But I doubt it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Karsten
>> > --
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>> >
>> >
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