[okfn-discuss] Keeping DRM out of HTML5

Thu May 16 13:57:06 UTC 2013

hello,

My humble opinion is that we are progressively moving from a copyright
centric culture and business models to an open centric culture and economy.

This is not a black or white alternatiive: not everything was protected
when the open movement started and not everything will be open when the big
cultural shift will be done.

My belief is that our mission is warranting that things are "open by
default" and making the case for the public and business value of open,
rather than limiting choice and entering in a frontal battle

thanks,

javi

2013/5/16 Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>

> FYI are already an organisational signatory to:
>
> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/sign-on-against-drm-in-html
>
>
>
>
> On 15 May 2013 23:48, Pieter Colpaert <pieter.colpaert at okfn.org> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Daniel +1 - We should take a public stance against DRM in HTML5 (and in
>> general).
>>
>> I think it would be interesting to summarize this in 3 solid arguments +
>> an alternative in a blog post on okfn.org. If there's a consent, I'm
>> willing to give a kickstart to such a blog post.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Pieter
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Daniel Dietrich <
>> daniel.dietrich at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Herrmann,
>>>
>>> I think the OKFN should publicly reject DRM in general and as a whole.
>>> HTML5 is just one aspect of this battle.
>>>
>>> But thats just my humble opinion, interested to hear what other think.
>>>
>>> All best
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 May 2013, at 23:08, Augusto Herrmann <augusto.herrmann at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Since the WWW 2013 conference is happening this week, and this issue
>>> is in discussion there, I though this an opportune moment to revisit the
>>> topic.
>>> >
>>> > Do you guys think the OKFn should publicly reject DRM as a whole, or
>>> add to the campaign against it in HTML5, as the FSF and EFF have been
>>> doing? Even a blog post discussing why this is bad for open knowledge could
>>> be useful at this moment.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Augusto Herrmann
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Aaron Wolf <wolftune at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > yes, sorry about my typo. We're clear. Public endorsements of negative
>>> things cause more harm than any potential upside of luring your enemies
>>> into your camp or whatever.
>>> >
>>> > All political positions matter in terms of how they inspire others,
>>> not just for the technical details.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Aaron Wolf
>>> > wolftune.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Karsten Gerloff <
>>> gerloff at fsfeurope.org> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 01:06:04PM -0400, Aaron Wolf wrote:
>>> > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Karsten Gerloff <
>>> gerloff at fsfeurope.org>wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Looking at the, ahem, "success" of
>>> > > > technologies such as Flash and Silverlight, they're welcome to
>>> > > > try.
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I must say, I know this is just a turn of phrase, but they are NOT
>>> welcome
>>> > > to try more of this. We need to keep working to have a culture that
>>> shames
>>> > > these attempts even when they are failed attempts.
>>> >
>>> > I fully agree.
>>> > >
>>> > > And that said, the idea of TBL endorsing DRM is destructive. Whether
>>> it
>>> > > possibly has any utility in bringing the systems to light where they
>>> can be
>>> > > rejected, if the goal of rejection isn't PUBLIC then it's bad for the
>>> > > culture. We can have respectable people telling the culture to
>>> respect DRM.
>>> >
>>> > s/can/can't, right?
>>> >
>>> > > This is a cultural battle more than a technological one.
>>> >
>>> > Quite so. If Tim Berners-Lee has a strategy here, I hope it's a
>>> > very good one. But I doubt it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Karsten
>>> > --
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