[okfn-help] Open government data registry Workshop

Sat Jan 23 19:33:03 UTC 2010

Excellent, I've added this to our calendar:

  http://okfn.org/calendar/

Jonathan

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Antti "Jogi" Poikola
<antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Here a benchmarking list and some other details before the workshop:
> http://apoikola.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/open-government-data-catalogs/
>
> -Jogi
>
> PS: Diigo is soooo much cooler than Delicious ;)
>
> On 22 January 2010 20:46, Antti "Jogi" Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> What: Virtual workshop about open data catalogs and requirments
>> When: 11.2.2010 16-19 CET
>> Where: Skype + Etherpad + wiki contact antti.poikola by skype
>>
>> This Doodle poll indicates that Thursday 11.2. is OK for me, Daniel,
>> James, Rufus, David and Jussi, so let's keep that fixed.
>>
>> The idea is to generally brainstorm the requirments for a good data
>> catalog. I will contact James and Daniel before the workshop and
>> organize it a little bit in advance.
>>
>> Secondary goal if there is time left is to streamline the two open
>> source catalog projects CKAN and opengov.x so that they will support
>> each other. Jussi allready made a review of the CKAN codebase from a
>> opengov.x developers point of view. And David? have evaluated CKAN as
>> well (link below), it would be great if one of the CKAN developers
>> could evaluate the opengov.x codebase and send the comments for the
>> rest of us.
>>
>> Opengov.x codebase
>> http://code.google.com/p/opengov-catalog/
>>
>> Notes about CKAN and list of exicting datacatalogs
>> http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ARp4XHAbw5YsZGRoanh4ZnNfNjJmNmJkaDVjYg&hl=en
>>
>>
>> -Jogi
>> 2010/1/19 Antti Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com>:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I made the initial Doodle poll here: http://www.doodle.com/smrbrg5uz3ihg3p6
>>>
>>> Mark possible days in the poll and add free-form comments at the bottom of
>>> the poll in the comments section please.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> -Jogi (Finland)
>>>
>>> Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Great to hear that there is interest in having a virtual session to
>>>> discuss CKAN UI stuff, CKAN/Opengov.x interoperability and suchlike!
>>>> (I guess the title will be something like 'Open government data
>>>> registry requirements'?)
>>>>
>>>> Antti: can we action you with fixing a date/time that suits the main
>>>> people interested in participating with this? E.g. with a doodle poll,
>>>> say in February? (Not sure if weekday or weekend is better, AM or PM,
>>>> etc.)
>>>>
>>>> Also it would be great if people could add relevant ideas/discussion
>>>> points to:
>>>>
>>>>  http://wiki.okfn.org/ckan/ideas
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 6:37 PM, David Eaves <david at eaves.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> As someone seeking to set up a site that aggregates open data sets I'd
>>>>> love
>>>>> to be part of the discussion and help out as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> best,
>>>>> dave
>>>>> C: 778-227-4235
>>>>> www.eaves.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10-01-15 8:52 AM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Antti and others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is really a great idea and I am happy to join / help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14.01.2010, at 19:43, Antti Poikola wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan and others,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will forward this email to the opengov_data developer list:
>>>>>>> opengov_data at googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jussi Arpalahti made recently a quick review on the CKAN codebase and
>>>>>>> hopefully shares his thoughts with you guys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Basically it seems that opengov is so far much lighter and simpler
>>>>>>> implementation that CKAN. CKAN is more datawarehouse oriented where the
>>>>>>> opnegov is more usercommunity and UI oriented, though, not yet fully
>>>>>>> implemented. In my opinion replicating things in two projects
>>>>>>> (developing
>>>>>>> community approach, discussion and UI in CKAN or developing advanced
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>> directory related features in opengov) should be avoided if possible.
>>>>>>> On the
>>>>>>> other hand putting two systems in one stack is not allways so straight
>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course this question goes beyond technology and the vision for good
>>>>>>> data catalogues should be developed further. In Finland we have some
>>>>>>> financial backing for developing the opengov further and I might be
>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>> get some more for something useful, but before that I would like to
>>>>>>> push
>>>>>>> more the development of "international data catalogue builder
>>>>>>> community".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I suggest that (in this order):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Jussi shares his questions and thoughts for this group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. One of the CKAN developers takes a quick look at the opengov code
>>>>>>> base: http://code.google.com/p/opengov-catalog/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Before going to wiki, let's have an 1,5 hour data catalogue
>>>>>>> visioning
>>>>>>> session at Skype+Etherpad. After points 1 and 2, if there is interest
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> this point 3, I can coordinate the scheduling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with the steps proposed and looking forward to jump in at step
>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best greetings
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jogi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Several people interested in using CKAN as a registry of open
>>>>>>>> (government) data in their country have expressed an interest in
>>>>>>>> having either a new front end, a different 'theme' and/or more user
>>>>>>>> features.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Antti Poikola (Finland), Daniel Dietrich (Germany) and James Burke
>>>>>>>> (Netherlands) are going to take a lead in suggesting improvements and
>>>>>>>> features that they would like to see, as well as in comparing it to
>>>>>>>> other similar sites/projects. Perhaps as David Eaves (Canada) is also
>>>>>>>> thinking about this, he might like to join in too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest that Antti, Daniel, James and David (if he is interested),
>>>>>>>> add their ideas and suggestions to the OKF wiki:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  http://wiki.okfn.org/ckan/ideas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps, once they have done this, we can then schedule in a meeting
>>>>>>>> with core CKAN developers/designers to talk about this. E.g. sometime
>>>>>>>> in February? Also several people have suggested the possibility of
>>>>>>>> finding other designers/developers (Python) to help out with this in
>>>>>>>> respective countries...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are starting a little working group here at opendata network in
>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>> to discus what features, functionalities, etc we would like to see for a
>>>>>> german data.gov.de - we also might find some coding recourses for coding
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> design.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Jonathan Gray

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