[Okfn-irl] [ogpirl] REMINDER & DOCUMENTS: CIVIL SOCIETY FORUM MEETING TONIGHT 5.30 TASC's OFFICES

Tue Feb 18 18:32:59 UTC 2014

Live minutes from CS Meeting on Feb. 18th are being collated here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dVfN8944ZKeLXJhZUa8Weg813KyXhS-q4vZsG8FEu8A/edit

Please add comments and minutes to this document.

Regards,
Flora

Best,

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On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Kevin Murphy <kevin at vaireland.org> wrote:

> Nuala and Nat
>
> Many thanks for this - will not be there this evening so please pass on my
> apologies.
>
> I have read the minutes and action plan draft with interest. Broadly
> speaking I think this is really good progress and agree with most of the
> comments from CS that are in the minutes.
>
> Additionally I would like to reinforce the point that the 3rd theme around
> Improving public services and strengthening citizen participation really
> needs to be become two themes - i.e. 1.Improving public services and 2.
> Strengthening citizen participation.
>
> Citizen participation is much broader than just public services.
>
> If this is not really possible then would suggest that the strengthening
> citizen participation element of the original theme include the idea of
> co-creation and development of public services with citizens as well as
> just simply making it easier for them to access them. That way we would be
> able to highlight citizen participation and build the potential of it
> without having to have a separate category.
>
> That's all for now
>
> Thanks for keeping me in the loop
>
> Best wishes
> Kevin
>
>
> On 18 February 2014 14:21, Nuala Haughey <nhaughey at tasc.ie> wrote:
>
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>> Dear all,
>>
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>> With apologies in advance for any cross-postings, I'd like to remind you
>> of this week's meeting of the OGP civil society forum*, tonight in
>> TASC's offices on 14-15 Parliament Street, Dublin 2 at 17.30*.  The CS
>> Forum will meet every Tuesday evening at the same time, for the time being.
>> We hope everyone who can will be there for these important discussions.
>>
>>
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>> The purpose of tonight's meeting is to discuss progress to date on the
>> work towards Ireland's first OGP Action Plan.
>>
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>> I attach DPER's first *draft National Action Plan outline* which was
>> discussed at the second meeting of the DPER/CS Joint Working Group (JWG)
>> meeting last Thursday, 13th February.
>>
>>
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>> Below are the notes and Action Points of the JWG meeting of 13thFebruary. Denis has also kindly uploaded these documents to this google
>> drive:
>> https://drive.google.com/a/online.ie/?usp=gmail#folders/0B5UpNv1ZWNoDQmZMTjBFVThob2c
>>
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>> OGP Joint Working Group Summary Meeting Notes
>>
>> *13/2/14*
>>
>> *Civil Society Members present: *Andrew Jackson, Denis Parfenov, Nuala
>> Haughey, Antoin Ó Lachtnain, Anne Colgan.
>>
>> *Civil Service Members Present: *William Beausang (PER)*, *Evelyn
>> O'Connor (PER)*, *Claire Martinez (PER)*, *Conor McCann (PER)*, *Donal
>> Enright (D/Environment, Community & Local Government).
>>
>> *The draft Work Plan: *DPER circulated a draft Work Plan with a schedule
>> of tasks/meetings aimed at having a good draft plan for April 3rd. The
>> plan factors in some wider consultation on the draft, but leaves open the
>> option of public consultation following the launch. The CS had also done
>> work on possible scheduling of tasks. Both plans are broadly similar, with
>> some differences in emphasis as to where most time investment will be
>> needed. The two schedules will be merged by DPER, and serve as a
>> guide/check as we go rather than a rigid timetable.
>>
>> *Conference planning*: The intended attendance will be 300 people. The
>> key planning matters include themes, topics, speakers from Europe and
>> elsewhere, Chairs, rapporteurs, plenaries and break-out sessions, logistics
>> and event management. The planning timeframe is tight. DPER requested 2/3
>> volunteers from CS to join the planning team. Denis offered to be involved.
>> CS will source another person/s for the team as quickly as possible. CS
>> volunteers will also be sought to assist at the conference.
>>
>> *Themes: *CS gave feedback on the three themes put forward by DPER
>> (link) - Open Data, Political Reform, Improving Public Services and
>> strengthening citizen participation. The main CS view was that the themes
>> should link more explicitly to the OGP agenda. There was a lengthy
>> discussion about the link between improved customer service and citizen
>> engagement. The CS view favoured separating these and keeping the focus on
>> citizen engagement with a core purpose of strengthening democratic
>> participation. The CS ideas about themes focused on accountability/
>> transparency, strengthening democracy and areas such as innovation and
>> growth; political reform and Open data would be key enablers for these.
>> DPER referred to the need for a plan that will be an integrated whole. They
>> will recast the themes in advance of next CS Forum meeting (Tuesday 18th),
>> and provide a draft narrative that aims to set a context.
>>
>> *DPER Document on CS Submission: *CS gave feedback on the DPER document
>> (link). The DPER document was very helpful in providing background and
>> context to the CS Propositions. One CS concern was that the DPER document
>> does not explicitly state where the scope for change lies, though there are
>> some pointers, and does not appear to leave scope for new initiatives to
>> emerge. CS made a case for explicit feedback on each proposal; while DPER
>> felt that this might risk getting the process bogged down in detail and
>> reducing the room for convergence, they will undertake to do that since it
>> will help CS in its task of finalising its proposals.
>>
>> *Action Plan template*: CS proposed that there would be joint/separate
>> Government/CS introduction rather than a merged introduction and that CS 62
>> proposed would be 'memorialised' in some way; DPER will prepare a first
>> working draft of the Introduction, but this will be open to revision and
>> this will be finalised when the Action plan is agreed.
>>
>>  *Administrative support*: The governance arrangements for the
>> administrative support were reviewed, and CS gave an update on the progress
>> in hiring the administrator (interviews 13/2/14).  DPER requested that the
>> OGP website would be moderated, as previously, to have oversight of
>> content. It was agreed that the OGP Logo will be retained exclusively for
>> the OGP website.
>>
>> *Next meeting*: Thursday February 20th at 11.30am, DPER offices.
>>
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>> *OGP Joint Working Group Meeting - 11.30am 13/02/14*
>>
>> *Action Points*
>>
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>> *Location: *TASC, Castleriver House, 14-15 Parliament Street, Dublin 2
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> *Civil Society Members present: *Anne Colgan*, *Andrew Jackson, Denis
>> Parfenov, Nuala Haughey, Antoin Ó Lachtnain
>>
>>
>>
>> *Civil Service Members Present: *William Beausang (PER)*, *Evelyn
>> O'Connor (PER)*, *Claire Martinez (PER)*, *Conor McCann (PER)*, *Donal
>> Enright (D/Environment, Community & Local Government).
>>
>>
>>
>> A number of action points emerged from this meeting, the second gathering
>> of the OGP Joint Working group, continuing the collaborative process of
>> drafting Ireland's first OGP National Action plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> ·         D/PER representatives agreed to begin work on a point by point
>> tabular response to the 62 proposals put forward in the Civil Society
>> report. This tabular response will be similar in style to those issued
>> previously by D/ECLG. It will briefly outline why particular proposals
>> are/are not being considered as feasible for inclusion in the action plan
>> or where there is convergence. This will give all those who contributed to
>> the public meetings in 2013 an understanding of the reasons why their input
>> is/is not proposed for inclusion in the action plan.
>>
>> ·         D/PER will further develop the proposed headings in the draft
>> action plan outline to broaden them into more specific thematic areas with
>> a high level vision narrative for the plan around the themes.
>>
>> ·         D/PER will also start drafting the Introduction to the plan
>> indicating inter alia the reasoning behind Irish involvement in the OGP and
>> the importance of the process. They will also start drafting a description
>> of Open Government efforts to date.
>>
>> ·         The incoming administrative support member, who is expected to
>> begin work shortly, will consolidate the two draft work plans - put forward
>> by D/PER and civil society representatives respectively - into a single
>> work plan.
>>
>> ·         Regarding the administrative support, it was agreed that the
>> budgeting would be flexible enough to allow for the arrangement of meetings
>> etc. It was also agreed that the OGP Ireland logo would be taken down from
>> twitter accounts not directly associated with the OGP Ireland website, in
>> order to avoid confusion.
>>
>> ·         The next meeting of the Joint Working Group will take place on
>> Thursday February 20 at 11:30am in 14 - 16 Merrion Street.
>>
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