[okfn-za] Open Data on CO2 Emissions

Thu Apr 25 09:24:25 UTC 2013

Actually, of the most active commenters on the list, I think that only Adi
& Rufus are coders. I'm a 'word geek' -- a recovering journo, currently
working as a digital strategist.

Zoutnet is a feisty newspaper group up in your part of the world (they do
the Limpopo Mirror & Zoutpansberger, amongst other stuff), which has won
international awards for its digital innovation (including from the
www.AfricanNewsChallenge.org fund that I manage) + for its community
outreach work. William is their chief coder, & Anton is the CEO / publisher
(and a hardcore geek).

Cheers,
Justin

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On 25 April 2013 11:00, Jakes Rawlinson <brajakes at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>
> Thanks again. To show my ignorance, what is Zoutnet?
>
> Also Adi, just like Leon, I'm very grateful for your soapbox moment and
> dispelling the myth. I have also been lurking in the background because I
> thought there was no place for 'us' non coders!
>
> Have a great day,
>
> Jakes
>
>
>
> On 25 April 2013 09:00, Justin Arenstein <justinarenstein at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Jakes,
>>
>> There's no reason not to have a HH chapter in Polokwane. The guys at
>> Zoutnet Media are really keen on digital experimentation & data journalism.
>> I've copied two of them above. There are also loads of media in the city, &
>> I assume there should be an equal number of techies of various persuasions.
>>
>> Limpopo is also really ripe territory for civic engagement projects that
>> use data & mobile. Just think about the reach & impact that an app that
>> allowed kids to report textbook shortages would have had in the province.
>>
>> Happy hunting.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Justin
>>
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>> On 24 April 2013 19:34, Jakes Rawlinson <brajakes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Justin,
>>>
>>> Thanks once again. I can only dream of a HH in Polokwane! If I'm
>>> subscribed to the HH-JHB and HH-CT and 'odadi' will that keep me in the
>>> loop for the events that you are referring to? I'm not that IT literate
>>> i.e. hackathons and don't know how to scrape data, etc. The only chance I
>>> have to learn about these literacies is to join the activities.
>>>
>>> Being in Public Health I've been quite plugged into EIAs and know how
>>> the RoDs were sometimes treated as a joke. The thing is just as you said, a
>>> lack of awareness and to large extent apathy, even amongst the Public
>>> Health folk. I will put it on my 'to do list' to get myself back on the
>>> mailing list for EIAs.
>>>
>>> Have a splendid night,
>>>
>>> Jakes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 April 2013 17:19, Justin Arenstein <justinarenstein at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi again.
>>>>
>>>> Just one additional point of clarification:
>>>>
>>>> OKFN-ZA & HH chapters focus more on individual membership & networking.
>>>> ODADI was conceived more as an umbrella forum for institutional
>>>> stakeholders (NGOs, grassroots movements, civic orgs, donor agencies,
>>>> universities, etc) to coordinate policy & resource strategies on issues of
>>>> common interest.
>>>>
>>>> Also, on HH, the Jo'burg chapter is hosting a meetup at Jozihub on May
>>>> 8, with an international speaker from TorProject.org, looking at digital
>>>> security & encryption for journalists & activists who need to protect their
>>>> sources & whistleblowers in an age of increasing digi-surveillance. The HH
>>>> chapters also cohost longer digital & data skills bootcamps (4-days each),
>>>> 48hr hackathons & scraperthons, & help teams to develop ideas for things
>>>> like the $1m annual www.AfricanNewsChallenge.org.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Justin
>>>>
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>>>> On 24 April 2013 16:21, Adi Eyal <adi at burgercom.co.za> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jakes
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm really glad to see another voice on this mailing list. Also, the
>>>>> discussions are starting to become a lot more interesting. I'll just answer
>>>>> one of your questions which hasn't yet been answered.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, what is 'hackshackers-CT & -JHB'  and 'odadi' all about?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a couple of groups around the country who are interested in
>>>>> open data. There is much overlap between them but in many cases they are
>>>>> attended by people with slightly different interests. HacksHackers (JHB and
>>>>> CT) focus specifically on the intersection between journalists (hacks) and
>>>>> programmers (hackers). The main interest here is around data journalism but
>>>>> not exclusively. In the next week or two (HacksHackers) will be hosting a
>>>>> workshop for basic data processing focusing on a salary survey that we ran
>>>>> a month ago. We aren't targeting  journalists exclusively and the event
>>>>> should be relevant to anyone wanting a basic introduction to data
>>>>> processing. No need to be scared of data and no programming skills required.
>>>>>
>>>>> Odadi (Open Data and Democracy Initiative) is a general interest group
>>>>> but biased toward the civil society sector (but again not exclusively).
>>>>> Here we are more interested in the larger ecosystem of open data (both
>>>>> consumers and producers) and advocacy around access issues in the
>>>>> government sector. The group has been a little quiet since our hackathon
>>>>> last year but as with OKFN, we are trying to revive discussions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally OKFN-ZA is pretty much similar but doesn't (as far as I see)
>>>>> have a specific focus and is a general interest group. For anyone
>>>>> interested in these types of issues, I highly recommend subscribing to all
>>>>> through groups. The traffic load is not very high (at least not yet) so
>>>>> your inbox shouldn't explode.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can subscribe to the odadi group at
>>>>> odadi+subscribe at googlegroups.com and hackshackers at
>>>>> hackshackers-capetown+subscribe at googlegroups.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again and thanks for all the good work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jakes Rawlinson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Department of Public Health
>>>>>> University of Limpopo
>>>>>> Polokwane
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> +27-86-664 6262 (Fax)
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Adi Eyal
>>>>> Data Specialist
>>>>> phone: +27 78 014 2469
>>>>> skype: adieyalcas
>>>>> linkedin: http://za.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Adi/Eyal
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