[Open-access] How to cite the Panton Principles?

Wed Feb 15 15:05:38 UTC 2012

I think this issue has been raised before for both PP and the OKD, but
clearly nothing ended up going on the website :)
How does Cameron's suggestion sound to everyone? If people are relatively
in agreement then we can put that on the website.
We could go through numerous other possibilities but I think as Ross says
that getting something standardised up as soon as possible is probably a
good thing to do!

Jenny

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Ross Mounce <ross.mounce at gmail.com> wrote:

> I certainly think a standardised suggested citation would help.
>
> It would make it easier to track the future [citation/altmetric]
> impact of the Panton Principles, rather than totting up all the scores
> for a 100 different citation variants - harder to do (this happens a
> lot with references to software programs I've noticed).
>
> Sadly, very few researchers I encounter have ever heard of the Panton
> Principles (yet), and thus I think it may be important to demonstrate
> that we *do* have impact (even if it would generally not be formally
> cited), beyond just the list of names that have endorsed it.
>
> Also, it would help to demonstrate it's not just a 'random' website
> with someone's personal philosophical views on it. (perhaps?)
>
> Also, I think the author names give it a little more credence IMO.
>
>
> That's my opinion on it anyhow...
>
> Ross
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:11 PM, cameronneylon.net <cn at cameronneylon.net>
> wrote:
> > I would use the standard website citation style for the
> journal/publisher you are working with. If you wish then add the author
> names but something along the lines of:
> >
> >> Panton Principles, Principles for open data in science, Murray-Rust P,
> Neylon C, Pollock R, Wilbanks J, available at http://pantonprinciples.org/[accessed date]
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> > On 15 Feb 2012, at 00:53, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
> >
> >> You've stumped me!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Ross Mounce <ross.mounce at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I've been lucky enough to be invited to help write a book chapter on
> >> the theme of collaboration, code, and data sharing.
> >> Thus the Panton Principles, Science Code Manifesto and other such
> >> things immediately came to mind...
> >>
> >> But, having looked around a few papers that have already cited the
> >> Panton Principles
> >> e.g. these
> http://www.citeulike.org/user/rossmounce/tag/cites_panton_principles
> >>
> >> I'm a bit confused, because most have cited it as just a website, yet
> >> there are four authors clearly listed (PMR, Cameron, Rufus, John)! So
> >> um... it may seem a very simple question but...
> >>
> >> It isn't. It shows the futility of the citation economy. For me the
> website is fine, except that it suffers from possibly impermanence - maybe
> the site should have a DOI? Or maybe it should be bunged i a repository.
> >>
> >> A) How would you recommend I cite this?
> >>
> >> I suppose it depends on why it should be cited. Is it because you wish
> to increase the authors' hindexes? Because it won't. Most citations are
> rituals - people never read the contents. Whether putting authors' names
> increases actual readers I don't know.
> >>
> >> How would you cite the US declaration of independence? Washington,
> Jefferson et. al? (Not that the PP are quite as important yet)
> >>
> >> B) Perhaps once a recommended format is decided upon, could we put it
> >> up on the Panton Principles website, to make it easier for others to
> >> cite? e.g. a 'suggested citation format'
> >>
> >> That's a good idea.
> >>
> >> Some example citation forms I've seen so far include:
> >>
> >> Panton Principles, Principles for open data in science,
> >> http://pantonprinciples.org/
> >> Panton Principles for Open Data in Science:
> http://pantonprinciples.org/
> >>
> >> I'd favour this as it's the actual title.
> >>
> >> Panton Principles Web site http://pantonprinciples.org/
> >> Panton Principles - Principles for Open Data in Science
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Ross
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peter Murray-Rust
> >> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> >> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> >> University of Cambridge
> >> CB2 1EW, UK
> >> +44-1223-763069
> >
>
>
>
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