[Open-access] Green Gold Gratis Libre

Fri Feb 24 14:54:42 UTC 2012

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Mike Taylor <mike at indexdata.com> wrote:

> On 24 February 2012 14:15, cameronneylon.net <cn at cameronneylon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> (We probably don't want to get into discussing CC-BY-SA, since there
> >> are validly differing opinions on where that is more or less free than
> >> CC-BY, just as people disagree over whether the GNU GPL or Modified
> >> BSD licence is more free for software.)
> >
> > Strictly speaking if we're focussed on BOAI this point is moot as the
> BOAI specifies CC-BY
>
> Wait -- do you mean that literally?  I have been using
>        http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/boaifaq.htm#openaccess
> as the BOAI definition -- it describes something very like CC-BY, but
> doesn't name (which is unsurprising as IIRC it predates CC).  Is there
> a newer BOAI definition that actually SAYS CC-BY?
>
> > (as does the Open Source Definition).
>
> No.  The OSD
>        http://opensource.org/docs/osd
> definitely does not mention CC, and does includes the GNU GPL, which
> has an SA condition.
>        http://opensource.org/licenses/category
>
> > One of the things that's worrying me is the conflation of BOAI and OKD
> which are actually different on this point.
>
> Absolutely:
>        http://opendefinition.org/
> is explicitly SA-friendly.
>
> > As Mike says, we probably don't want to start that argument up again
> (I'm right, you're all wrong, clearly) but we should probably be clear
> about this. For me BOAI-compliant is pretty clear.
>
> Agreed.  It says what we want it to say, AND it's the oldest
> definition (at least among those in common knowledge -- right?) of the
> term "open access".  That it the one we want to be using.
>

Isn't the Definition of the Berlin conference compliant with BOAI but
covering more types of media? I remember I think Klaus Graf commenting on
this
TOM

>
> -- Mike.
>
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