[Open-access] [open-science] Elsevier: some facts, by Tim Gowers

Wed Apr 30 09:35:50 UTC 2014

In total agreement here.

In the UK, the recent Wellcome Trust author processing charge data release was very useful. (More info: http://access.okfn.org/2014/03/24/scale-hybrid-journals-publishing/ and http://access.okfn.org/2014/04/01/wellcome-trust-apc-data-thank-you/)

A few Universities have released some of their APC data (Cambridge and Queens Belfast) - at least the costs that have been born through libraries (although this misses the chunk paid through grants) Although I've not had time to explore this data fully yet.

I'm hoping that soon we will be in push for other UK libraries to release similar data.

I'd love it if anyone had time to help push for these data releases, or to explore the University data already out there.

I imagine this is something that could be replicated in other countries also?

M

> On 30 Apr 2014, at 10:21, "Richard Poynder" <ricky at richardpoynder.co.uk> wrote:
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> Another question to ask perhaps is one that the Australian Open Access Support Group is currently puzzling over: How much is the research community spending on OA publishing? 
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> http://aoasg.org.au/what-are-we-spending-on-oa-publication/
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> Is there anything else we need beyond these figures? What am I missing?
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> Legacy publishers: US$5000
> SciELO: US$90
> Arxiv: US$7
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> Multiplied by the number of papers published, this is what we would be paying, if we used one of these exclusively:
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> Legacy: 10b
> SciELO: 0.18b
> Arxiv: 0.014b
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> Do we need any figures beyond that? Rather than focusing on one publisher, we ought to perhaps, if anything, focus on the individual countries, so we can say to each citizen: "you are wasting this much of your taxes on legacy publishing". 
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> I must be missing something that people spend so much time on Elsevier, when we already seem to have all the numbers we need. What am I missing?
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> Bjoern
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