[open-bibliography] Fwd: Re: [dpla-discussion] DPLA Board of Directors call: Thursday, February 14, 1:00 PM EST
Jonathan Gray
jonathan.gray at okfn.org
Sun Feb 17 10:33:09 UTC 2013
That would be great Karen! If you framed this for a general audience
(explaining background and why this is important) we could run it on the
main OKF blog...
On 16 February 2013 21:18, Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net> wrote:
> I think this is worthy of a blog post. Would you like me to start a draft,
> and I can run that by the list before posting (I can't remember if I can
> post, but Adrian can).
>
> BTW, #4 is:
>
> 04. Free and Unencumbered Access to Metadata.
>
> Given the purposes of the policy and the copyright status of the metadata,
> and pursuant to the DPLA’s terms of service, the DPLA’s users are free to
> harvest, collect, modify, and/or otherwise use any metadata contained in
> the DPLA.
>
> [thunderous applause]
>
> kc
>
>
> On 2/16/13 10:26 AM, Tom Johnson wrote:
>
>> This was my impression as well.
>>
>> Does anyone know (or can anyone work out) whether CC0 will be a
>>>
>> requirement for all metadata in DPLA?
>>
>> This is an important question which may have been a bit ambiguous in the
>> original statement. The revised statement is clear:
>>
>> "The DPLA’s partners agree that the vast majority of metadata is not
>> subject to copyright. To the extent that metadata provided by the DPLA’s
>> partners may be protected by copyright, however, those partners have
>> agreed to dedicate such metadata to the public domain pursuant to a CC0
>> license. /This means that any raw metadata imported into the DPLA, which
>> is protected by copyright, is provided under a CC0 license." /[emphasis
>>
>> in original]
>>
>> Under the statement as written, not only do contributing institutions
>> agree to release their metadata as CC0 via DPLA, but there is an
>> implicit agreement not to argue any copyright interest at all. I think
>> the addition of point 4 is a nice touch as well. It doesn't add anything
>> new, but it's a nice human readable summary clarifying the spirit of the
>> policy.
>>
>> It's an excellent statement and I think we should do what we can to make
>> sure that this multi-pronged approach is adopted by other large
>> institutions.
>>
>> Oregon State University is in the process of discussing similar language
>> with our legal department to apply to our published datasets.
>>
>> - Tom
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM, John Wilkin <jpwilkin at umich.edu
>> <mailto:jpwilkin at umich.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not a DPLA insider, either, but I'm close enough to say with
>> confidence that Tom's read of the intent, outlined in his paragraph
>> that starts with "I think what they're going for here," is exactly
>> right and nicely characterized.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com
>> <mailto:tfmorris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Jonathan Gray
>> <jonathan.gray at okfn.org <mailto:jonathan.gray at okfn.org**>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Karen. Great it sounds like they are adopting a
>> policy which include CC0. Does anyone know (or can anyone
>> work out) whether CC0 will be a requirement for all metadata
>> in DPLA?
>>
>>
>> I'm not a DPLA insider, but my reading is that all contributing
>> institutions will be required to contribute anything
>> copyrightable under a CC0 license.
>>
>> Two bits that I find quite bizarre:
>>
>> * "Gore pointed out that in her experience working with
>> prospective data-providers, most cultural heritage
>> institutions are comfortable with the idea that the vast
>> majority of metadata is not copyrightable" -> Presumably
>> talking mainly about US GLAM institutions. Is this true? And
>> does 'not copyrightable' equate to 'happy to release in bulk
>> under CC0'?
>> * "Courant said that he thinks CC0 is still too
>> restrictive of a license, which is why he likes
>> using it as a ‘backstop’, which the policy does." -> Not
>> sure what 'too restrictive' means in this context? Too open?
>> Too strong? To legally specific? Anyone know?
>>
>>
>> I think what they're going for here is that no license should be
>> necessary at all because the metadata can't be copyrighted. I
>> suspect they want that to be their primary position, but are
>> including CC0 as a fallback/fail-safe. It's a bit of a nuanced
>> position and I could be misreading it, but that's my
>> interpretation.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> J.
>>
>> On 15 February 2013 23:20, Karen Coyle <lists at kcoyle.net
>> <mailto:lists at kcoyle.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Open Biblio Folks: much of the discussion in the notes
>> is about licensing of bib data. Perhaps we can read and
>> discuss?
>>
>> kc
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [dpla-discussion] DPLA Board of
>> Directors
>> call: Thursday, February 14, 1:00 PM EST
>> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:12:16 -0500
>> From: Kenny Whitebloom
>> <kwhitebloom at cyber.law.**harvard.edu<kwhitebloom at cyber.law.harvard.edu>
>> >
>> <mailto:kwhitebloom at cyber.law.**harvard.edu<kwhitebloom at cyber.law.harvard.edu>
>> >
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>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Notes from yesterday's Board of Directors call are now
>> available at:
>>
>> http://dp.la/about/board/**february-14-2013-board-of-**
>> directors-call/<http://dp.la/about/board/february-14-2013-board-of-directors-call/>
>>
>> There you will also find the materials discussed during
>> the call. Let us know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Best,
>> Kenny
>>
>> On 2/11/2013 2:19 PM, Kenny Whitebloom wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> The next DPLA Board of Directors call will take place
>>> this Thursday, February 14, at 1 PM EST. This call is
>>> open to the public; more information is available on
>>> the DPLA website
>>> <http://dp.la/about/february-**
>>> 14-2013-board-of-directors-**call<http://dp.la/about/february-14-2013-board-of-directors-call>
>>> >.
>>>
>>> The conference line is:
>>>
>>> *Dial-in*: 800-501-8979 <tel:800-501-8979>
>>> *Access Code*: 2739336
>>>
>>>
>>> An agenda for the call is attached, along with
>>> supporting materials (also available online
>>> <http://dp.la/about/february-**
>>> 14-2013-board-of-directors-**call<http://dp.la/about/february-14-2013-board-of-directors-call>
>>> >).
>>>
>>> Please don't hesitate to be in touch with any questions.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Kenny
>>> --
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>>>
>>
>>
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