[open-bibliography] Fwd: Re: [dpla-discussion] DPLA Board of Directors call: Thursday, February 14, 1:00 PM EST
Adrian Pohl
adrian.pohl at okfn.org
Mon Feb 18 14:24:44 UTC 2013
In January, Joris already published a post "Digital Public Library of
America recommends CC0" both at the OpenGLAM blog[1] and at the main
OKF blog[2]. Though the new policy draft is more detailed, there
doesn't seem to be a significant change in content compared to the
January version of a draft DPLA metadata policy. Thus, I'd say there
is no need for another blog post. (Hope, you haven't started writing
yet, Karen.)
All the best
Adrian
[1] http://openglam.org/2013/01/21/digital-public-library-of-america-recommends-cc0/
[2] http://blog.okfn.org/2013/01/22/digital-public-library-of-america-recommends-cc0/
On 17 February 2013 11:33, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
> That would be great Karen! If you framed this for a general audience
> (explaining background and why this is important) we could run it on the
> main OKF blog...
>
>
> On 16 February 2013 21:18, Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net> wrote:
>>
>> I think this is worthy of a blog post. Would you like me to start a draft,
>> and I can run that by the list before posting (I can't remember if I can
>> post, but Adrian can).
>>
>> BTW, #4 is:
>>
>> 04. Free and Unencumbered Access to Metadata.
>>
>> Given the purposes of the policy and the copyright status of the metadata,
>> and pursuant to the DPLA’s terms of service, the DPLA’s users are free to
>> harvest, collect, modify, and/or otherwise use any metadata contained in the
>> DPLA.
>>
>> [thunderous applause]
>>
>> kc
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/13 10:26 AM, Tom Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> This was my impression as well.
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know (or can anyone work out) whether CC0 will be a
>>>
>>> requirement for all metadata in DPLA?
>>>
>>> This is an important question which may have been a bit ambiguous in the
>>> original statement. The revised statement is clear:
>>>
>>> "The DPLA’s partners agree that the vast majority of metadata is not
>>> subject to copyright. To the extent that metadata provided by the DPLA’s
>>> partners may be protected by copyright, however, those partners have
>>> agreed to dedicate such metadata to the public domain pursuant to a CC0
>>> license. /This means that any raw metadata imported into the DPLA, which
>>> is protected by copyright, is provided under a CC0 license." /[emphasis
>>>
>>> in original]
>>>
>>> Under the statement as written, not only do contributing institutions
>>> agree to release their metadata as CC0 via DPLA, but there is an
>>> implicit agreement not to argue any copyright interest at all. I think
>>> the addition of point 4 is a nice touch as well. It doesn't add anything
>>> new, but it's a nice human readable summary clarifying the spirit of the
>>> policy.
>>>
>>> It's an excellent statement and I think we should do what we can to make
>>> sure that this multi-pronged approach is adopted by other large
>>> institutions.
>>>
>>> Oregon State University is in the process of discussing similar language
>>> with our legal department to apply to our published datasets.
>>>
>>> - Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM, John Wilkin <jpwilkin at umich.edu
>>> <mailto:jpwilkin at umich.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not a DPLA insider, either, but I'm close enough to say with
>>> confidence that Tom's read of the intent, outlined in his paragraph
>>> that starts with "I think what they're going for here," is exactly
>>> right and nicely characterized.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:tfmorris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Jonathan Gray
>>> <jonathan.gray at okfn.org <mailto:jonathan.gray at okfn.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Karen. Great it sounds like they are adopting a
>>> policy which include CC0. Does anyone know (or can anyone
>>> work out) whether CC0 will be a requirement for all metadata
>>> in DPLA?
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not a DPLA insider, but my reading is that all contributing
>>> institutions will be required to contribute anything
>>> copyrightable under a CC0 license.
>>>
>>> Two bits that I find quite bizarre:
>>>
>>> * "Gore pointed out that in her experience working with
>>> prospective data-providers, most cultural heritage
>>> institutions are comfortable with the idea that the vast
>>> majority of metadata is not copyrightable" -> Presumably
>>> talking mainly about US GLAM institutions. Is this true? And
>>> does 'not copyrightable' equate to 'happy to release in bulk
>>> under CC0'?
>>> * "Courant said that he thinks CC0 is still too
>>> restrictive of a license, which is why he likes
>>> using it as a ‘backstop’, which the policy does." -> Not
>>> sure what 'too restrictive' means in this context? Too open?
>>> Too strong? To legally specific? Anyone know?
>>>
>>>
>>> I think what they're going for here is that no license should be
>>> necessary at all because the metadata can't be copyrighted. I
>>> suspect they want that to be their primary position, but are
>>> including CC0 as a fallback/fail-safe. It's a bit of a nuanced
>>> position and I could be misreading it, but that's my
>>> interpretation.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>> On 15 February 2013 23:20, Karen Coyle <lists at kcoyle.net
>>> <mailto:lists at kcoyle.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Open Biblio Folks: much of the discussion in the notes
>>> is about licensing of bib data. Perhaps we can read and
>>> discuss?
>>>
>>> kc
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [dpla-discussion] DPLA Board of
>>> Directors
>>> call: Thursday, February 14, 1:00 PM EST
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:12:16 -0500
>>> From: Kenny Whitebloom
>>> <kwhitebloom at cyber.law.harvard.edu>
>>> <mailto:kwhitebloom at cyber.law.harvard.edu>
>>> Reply-To: dpla-discussion at eon.law.harvard.edu
>>> <mailto:dpla-discussion at eon.law.harvard.edu>
>>> To: dpla-discussion at eon.law.harvard.edu
>>> <mailto:dpla-discussion at eon.law.harvard.edu>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Notes from yesterday's Board of Directors call are now
>>> available at:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://dp.la/about/board/february-14-2013-board-of-directors-call/
>>>
>>> There you will also find the materials discussed during
>>> the call. Let us know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Kenny
>>>
>>> On 2/11/2013 2:19 PM, Kenny Whitebloom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> The next DPLA Board of Directors call will take place
>>>> this Thursday, February 14, at 1 PM EST. This call is
>>>> open to the public; more information is available on
>>>> the DPLA website
>>>>
>>>> <http://dp.la/about/february-14-2013-board-of-directors-call>.
>>>>
>>>> The conference line is:
>>>>
>>>> *Dial-in*: 800-501-8979 <tel:800-501-8979>
>>>> *Access Code*: 2739336
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An agenda for the call is attached, along with
>>>> supporting materials (also available online
>>>>
>>>> <http://dp.la/about/february-14-2013-board-of-directors-call>).
>>>>
>>>> Please don't hesitate to be in touch with any
>>>> questions.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kenny
>>>> --
>>>> Kenny Whitebloom
>>>> Berkman Center for Internet & Society
>>>> 23 Everett Street, 2nd Floor, Cambridge, MA 02138
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>>>
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