[Open-data-census] [okfn-discuss] A question about the Open Data census scoring system

Thu Aug 1 12:25:36 BST 2013

Hi Tracey,

These are great points and they have come up before. Its not easy to
see how exactly to resolve them (I guess we could introduce N/A as an
answer!)

I do note that we also support more regional setups by using the city
/ regional census instead:

http://census.okfn.org/city/

Rufus

On 31 July 2013 20:20, Tracey P. Lauriault <tlauriau at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Rufus;
>
> I sent some queries to the census folks as well, as the methodology does not
> work well for federations with divisions of powers and thus different data
> responsibilities at different levels of jurisdiction, in Canada we have
> Federal, 13 provinces and territories and 3000+ municipalities each with
> different responsibilities, for example, transit is delivered at the city
> but directed by the provinces and territories, environment data is both
> provincial & territorial and federal, and so on.  The census does not take
> this into consideration when collecting data and there was no room for
> qualify data entries and very little provenance or lineage as to who
> submitted what and what their levels of expertise were, making it difficult
> to trust the Canadian results, and my guess is some of the other countries
> with different situations.
>
> Since I did not receive a response from my querries, should I re-send them
> to you?  I think methodological rigour is important if results are to be
> trusted and most especially if decisions are going to be made on these data.
>
> Sincerely
> Tracey
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> [changing mailing list from okfn-discuss to open-data-census]
>>
>> On 23 July 2013 12:06, Tatyana Tolsteneva <tatyanatolsteneva at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>> my name is Tatyana and i'm a development manager of the Freedom of
>>> Information Foundation - Russian FOI-advocasy NGO based in St. Petersburg.
>>> I'm interested in the OKNF Open Data Census scoring system because i
>>> can't catch it's idea of it http://census.okfn.org/G8/
>>
>>
>> OKFN (Open Knowledge Foundation (Network))
>>
>>>
>>> At first i had a hypothesis, that each "yes" costs 1 poin and points just
>>> should to be summarized.
>>
>>
>> That's almost the case but not quite: whether data is up to date does not
>> count towards the total score.
>>
>>>
>>> This idea has been perfect, if maximum for all questions would have been
>>> 7.
>>> But we have 6 as maximum.
>>> So my question is about "data existence" column
>>>
>>> IN case all  "yes" should cost 1 points, it should be 7 as maximum.
>>
>>
>> See above.
>>
>>>
>>> Form the table http://census.okfn.org/G8/ i can see that some times "yes"
>>> per "data existence" is taken into the account.
>>
>>
>> It should be always taken into account.
>>
>>>
>>> Fo example,  Transport timetable is Russia, Government spending is France
>>> and in Italy.
>>> But in the majority of cases YES per "data existence" is not included
>>> into the account. For example Zip-codes Russia
>>
>>
>> It is included there - it's up to date that is not included.
>>
>>>
>>> And speaking about Russian case, company register for Russia  has 2/6 and
>>> Transport timetable has 2/6, but Company register is up to date and
>>> Transport timetable is not.
>>
>>
>> See above.
>>
>>>
>>> Would you be so kind to explain this scoring and situation with points
>>> for "data existence" and i woul be specially glad for explaining in the
>>> context of the Russian score.
>>
>>
>> Hope the above clarifies things. Also thanks for asking as your questions
>> will encourage us to put up further documentation on the website!
>>
>> Rufus
>>
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>
>
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