[Open-data-census] Dilemmas in running a City Census

Thu May 8 20:04:25 UTC 2014

Hi Silviu,

I've started Croatian local census recently (http://hr-city.census.okfn.org/).
Your questions are sound. Maybe these hints will help you decide:

1. Like in your case, in Croatia election results are managed on country
level on central site (www.izbori.hr)
I choose not to list Election Results at local level, since it's already
included and scored on national level in Open Data Index:
https://index.okfn.org/country/overview/Croatia/ >
https://index.okfn.org/country/Croatia/elections
If you (or your group) decide that Local Election results is something
worth scoring, then list it on your local census, and while scoring each
city, point url to exact page where specific city in observed year is
located

2. In Croatia local census we decided to go with 12 largest cities (largest
by number of inhabitants). We decided to go with 18 categories to evaluate
(check and compare categories list also against us-city, de-city, uk-city
and so on). Start small as city list can easily be updated with more cities.

Best regards / lijep pozdrav,
Miroslav Schlossberg

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Christian Villum <villum at autofunk.dk> wrote:

> Thanks for flagging these issues, Silviu. Regarding your first question I
> would also be really curious to hear what other Local Census communities
> have been doing if/when facing such situations?
>
> As for the number of cities, it's my impression that most other Local
> Census admins (correct me if I'm wrong) have started out small and tried to
> find local contributors and reviewers in each city when adding it. Once the
> Census is started it will inspire more people to get involved to start
> working on new cities - and then it grows from there. Of course it's the
> old hen and the egg situation, so maybe you would want to consider getting
> started with a handful of cities with the core team you have now - to kick
> things off - and then using that handful as example when reaching out to
> people in other cities to grow the contributor community.
> I'm sure there are many other ways to go about it and will leave it to
> other folks here on the list to chip in as well :)
>
> -Christian
>
>
>  On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Silviu Vert <silviu.vert at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>> We are preparing to launch the City Open Data Census in Romania and we
>> are struggling with some dilemmas around setting up the census. Maybe some
>> of you that already experienced these issues can express a perspective on
>> the following:
>>
>> 1) What do you do if some local datasets are to be found at the central
>> level? For example, in Romania, the local election results are processed
>> all together and exposed by a central institution, the Permanent Electoral
>> Authority. Do you just put the same exact evaluation for each city in your
>> list, pointing out to the central dataset? Can this be considered relevant
>> for the evaluation and comparison between cities?
>>
>> 2) What is your experience with the number of cities when starting the
>> census? Do you prefer to put just a few cities at the beginning, for
>> simplification? Do you find it overwhelming to have tens of cities in the
>> list from the beginning? What about the number of datasets: does it have
>> any influence at the start of the census?
>>
>> We welcome any input on these questions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Silviu
>>
>> Romania City Census administrator
>>
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