[Open-data-census] Wrong number of countries in the Census

Fri Oct 31 16:19:00 UTC 2014

Thanks Christian,

but the FAQ says this: "Each year the open data community and Open
Knowledge produces an annual ranking of countries."

and, I think, most of us consider the Open Data Index as the ranking for
country level.

I understand that choosing one of the definitions over others can lead to
polemical discussions but, at the opposite, if I follow your rule of thumb,
I open the Index to every jurisdiction in this world.

My point is that we need to keep some coherency for comparison purposes and
that not all places are at country level.

For instance, if we allow Guadeloupe or Martinique, which are integral part
of France, to be in the census, then we should also open the Index to all
the 101 French departments which are administrated exactly the same way.

And I am not making any political judgement here ;)

Best
Pierre

On Fri Oct 31 2014 at 4:21:37 PM Christian Villum <villum at autofunk.dk>
wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> We are actually not referring to any list of countries (as they per
> definition will always be politically sensitive), and that is why we are
> referring to entries as 'places' rather than 'countries'. As a rule of
> thumb, if a geographic area ("place") has any level of independence or/and
> self-governance, and - of course - data being made available, then it could
> be relevant for inclusion. Above all, however, is the necessity of someone
> in that given place to want to work on that place. It's a grey zone of
> course, but we do not want to make political judgements on sovereignty.
>
> For the Index 2014 presentation we'll likely cut out some countries if
> there are no submissions. This is not because of lack of recognition of
> those countries, but simply because there have been no one in that place to
> submit or review datasets.
>
> -Christian
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Pierre Chrzanowski <
> pierre.chrzanowski at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I just noticed the global.census.okfn.org website lists 250
>> countries, which is way higher than most of official list of states (UN has
>> 193 members).
>>
>> For instance Guadeloupe and Martinique are French départements, and as
>> such, should be included in the French results.
>>
>> Best
>>
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