[open-economics] Getting involved in a working group

Mon Feb 16 21:55:50 UTC 2015

Hi everyone,

Rodney and Samira, have you two considered the possibility to take over
this project? I can take the lead.
If you two (and anyone interested) would like, we can schedule a meeting
via skype or google hangouts so that we can discuss more in detail every
aspect about this possible project. As I will explain soon, Wiki Rating is
not a viable choice for us, at the moment.

Thank you.

2015-02-02 15:36 GMT+00:00 Gustavo Silva <gustavosantaremsilva at gmail.com>:

> Hello Samira and Rodney,
>
> First of all, I would like to say I sincerely appreciate your interest in
> the group!
> You both seem to be focused in the Oil Contract theme I brought up before.
> Therefore, I am proposing you to take over this project. I can
> supervise/coordinate you guys in what you need but I don't know at what
> extent I can help you develop it. Nevertheless, I'm here to help, of course!
>
> I will open a new thread on the mailing list - to get things organized -
> and I appreciate if you could follow up the discussion there.
>
> Thank you so much for showing your interest!
>
> 2015-02-02 15:22 GMT+00:00 Rodney Beard <rodney.m.beard at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> have been following this with interest, I have a resource economics
>> background. It might be worth mentioning some relevant literature at this
>> point to structure the oil contract problem a bit. From what I saw of what
>> had been done on this already there seemed little connection to the
>> economic literature on the subject. However, the database of contracts
>> seems very useful. Some literature that appears relevant (apologies it's
>> not open access):
>>
>>  http://www.jstor.org/stable/1803310
>> http://jleo.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/2/526.short
>>
>> There is of-course another way of thinking about oil contracts which is
>> in terms of contracts in the commodities markets (e.g. the ICE) but the
>> link to the contracts database suggested this literature to me.  The
>> original attempt seemed to be vague as to what type of contract was being
>> considered.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Rodney Beard
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Samira Niknami <samiraster at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Gustavo,
>>>
>>> First of all I want to thank you for taking up the responsibility of
>>> running this group, it's been inactive for quite a while. Next, I'd like to
>>> say that I'm eager to join the working group which is about developing a
>>> model of an oil contract.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Samira
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>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>
>>>> My plans to restart this work group consists in calling back some of the
>>>> guys that were once involved in the group and get new people involved.
>>>> This
>>>> is a noble cause and it is not an easy task to get people involved. I'm
>>>> sure after we get enough resources (well, mostly human for now),
>>>> projects
>>>> will start to flow naturally.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, one of the best ways to get new people is by showing activity
>>>> and showing off great results. Unfortunately, we don't have enough
>>>> resources to fulfil some requests (for now, as far as I know) like this
>>>> one
>>>> <http://discuss.okfn.org/t/idea-brainstorm/179/2>. Considering our
>>>> lack of
>>>> resources, I believe our best bet is to try to get some of our old
>>>> projects
>>>> updated and running.
>>>> Personally, I find the failed bank tracker the best fit because it is
>>>> simpler and I have already thought about what can we do about it
>>>> <http://discuss.okfn.org/t/project-failed-bank-tracker/155/1>. However,
>>>> apparently nobody is interested on that. Please let me know what you
>>>> think
>>>> of my suggestions - either on the forums or by email.
>>>>
>>>> I also found out that, previously, the group has tried to develop a
>>>> theoretical
>>>> model of an oil contract
>>>> <http://openeconomics.net/2013/10/22/open-model-of-an-oil-contract/>.
>>>> Seems
>>>> that project didn't go very far. Do you think we could revive it? Seems
>>>> we
>>>> have this  crisis in that industry so it looks like a great opportunity.
>>>> It can be very troublesome, but if we have enough economists in the
>>>> group,
>>>> I am pretty sure we can develop something very interesting, under CC
>>>> licenses, and prove it using open data. There are a lot of open groups
>>>> that
>>>> can help us on that, like Open Oil. Open Data, Open Spending and Open
>>>> Government (just a few). The idea would be to try and explain how these
>>>> firms behave in their industry and what really counts when they define
>>>> their prices (or quantities). What are your thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> I also thought about using open data to investigate about the
>>>> effectiveness
>>>> of the austerity measures the European Union has implemented throughout
>>>> time, since 2008. What do you guys think?
>>>>
>>>> I am running out of ideas for new projects. I would really appreciate
>>>> your
>>>> help for the time being. Since I am still waiting to get access to our
>>>> social media channels (namely, our Twitter account)  and website, this
>>>> is
>>>> the perfect time to develop a project and publish it, or even advertise
>>>> it,
>>>> after I get access to the social media channels. How we will proceed in
>>>> regard to any project we decide to go for, we will discuss that in
>>>> another
>>>> email. Let's focus on getting a project to get started and then we will
>>>> arrange our necessary conditions.
>>>> Feel free to brought to discuss ANY project you may have think of. Maybe
>>>> something in your daily job or something you can use to extend your
>>>> master's thesis/research paper.
>>>>
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>>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>>> Gustavo
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Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
Gustavo
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