[open-economics] Getting involved in a working group

Rodney Beard rodney.m.beard at gmail.com
Mon Feb 16 21:59:38 UTC 2015


Sorry have been a little busy. Am happy to be involved and can advise on
literature and approach. Libecap's work looks a good place to start. I was
having trouble trying to figure out how to access the wiki thing.

Rodney

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Gustavo Silva <
gustavosantaremsilva at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Rodney and Samira, have you two considered the possibility to take over
> this project? I can take the lead.
> If you two (and anyone interested) would like, we can schedule a meeting
> via skype or google hangouts so that we can discuss more in detail every
> aspect about this possible project. As I will explain soon, Wiki Rating is
> not a viable choice for us, at the moment.
>
> Thank you.
>
> 2015-02-02 15:36 GMT+00:00 Gustavo Silva <gustavosantaremsilva at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello Samira and Rodney,
>>
>> First of all, I would like to say I sincerely appreciate your interest in
>> the group!
>> You both seem to be focused in the Oil Contract theme I brought up
>> before. Therefore, I am proposing you to take over this project. I can
>> supervise/coordinate you guys in what you need but I don't know at what
>> extent I can help you develop it. Nevertheless, I'm here to help, of course!
>>
>> I will open a new thread on the mailing list - to get things organized -
>> and I appreciate if you could follow up the discussion there.
>>
>> Thank you so much for showing your interest!
>>
>> 2015-02-02 15:22 GMT+00:00 Rodney Beard <rodney.m.beard at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> have been following this with interest, I have a resource economics
>>> background. It might be worth mentioning some relevant literature at this
>>> point to structure the oil contract problem a bit. From what I saw of what
>>> had been done on this already there seemed little connection to the
>>> economic literature on the subject. However, the database of contracts
>>> seems very useful. Some literature that appears relevant (apologies it's
>>> not open access):
>>>
>>>  http://www.jstor.org/stable/1803310
>>> http://jleo.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/2/526.short
>>>
>>> There is of-course another way of thinking about oil contracts which is
>>> in terms of contracts in the commodities markets (e.g. the ICE) but the
>>> link to the contracts database suggested this literature to me.  The
>>> original attempt seemed to be vague as to what type of contract was being
>>> considered.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Rodney Beard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Samira Niknami <samiraster at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Gustavo,
>>>>
>>>> First of all I want to thank you for taking up the responsibility of
>>>> running this group, it's been inactive for quite a while. Next, I'd like to
>>>> say that I'm eager to join the working group which is about developing a
>>>> model of an oil contract.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Samira
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>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> My plans to restart this work group consists in calling back some of
>>>>> the
>>>>> guys that were once involved in the group and get new people involved.
>>>>> This
>>>>> is a noble cause and it is not an easy task to get people involved. I'm
>>>>> sure after we get enough resources (well, mostly human for now),
>>>>> projects
>>>>> will start to flow naturally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore, one of the best ways to get new people is by showing
>>>>> activity
>>>>> and showing off great results. Unfortunately, we don't have enough
>>>>> resources to fulfil some requests (for now, as far as I know) like
>>>>> this one
>>>>> <http://discuss.okfn.org/t/idea-brainstorm/179/2>. Considering our
>>>>> lack of
>>>>> resources, I believe our best bet is to try to get some of our old
>>>>> projects
>>>>> updated and running.
>>>>> Personally, I find the failed bank tracker the best fit because it is
>>>>> simpler and I have already thought about what can we do about it
>>>>> <http://discuss.okfn.org/t/project-failed-bank-tracker/155/1>.
>>>>> However,
>>>>> apparently nobody is interested on that. Please let me know what you
>>>>> think
>>>>> of my suggestions - either on the forums or by email.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also found out that, previously, the group has tried to develop a
>>>>> theoretical
>>>>> model of an oil contract
>>>>> <http://openeconomics.net/2013/10/22/open-model-of-an-oil-contract/>.
>>>>> Seems
>>>>> that project didn't go very far. Do you think we could revive it?
>>>>> Seems we
>>>>> have this  crisis in that industry so it looks like a great
>>>>> opportunity.
>>>>> It can be very troublesome, but if we have enough economists in the
>>>>> group,
>>>>> I am pretty sure we can develop something very interesting, under CC
>>>>> licenses, and prove it using open data. There are a lot of open groups
>>>>> that
>>>>> can help us on that, like Open Oil. Open Data, Open Spending and Open
>>>>> Government (just a few). The idea would be to try and explain how these
>>>>> firms behave in their industry and what really counts when they define
>>>>> their prices (or quantities). What are your thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> I also thought about using open data to investigate about the
>>>>> effectiveness
>>>>> of the austerity measures the European Union has implemented throughout
>>>>> time, since 2008. What do you guys think?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am running out of ideas for new projects. I would really appreciate
>>>>> your
>>>>> help for the time being. Since I am still waiting to get access to our
>>>>> social media channels (namely, our Twitter account)  and website, this
>>>>> is
>>>>> the perfect time to develop a project and publish it, or even
>>>>> advertise it,
>>>>> after I get access to the social media channels. How we will proceed in
>>>>> regard to any project we decide to go for, we will discuss that in
>>>>> another
>>>>> email. Let's focus on getting a project to get started and then we will
>>>>> arrange our necessary conditions.
>>>>> Feel free to brought to discuss ANY project you may have think of.
>>>>> Maybe
>>>>> something in your daily job or something you can use to extend your
>>>>> master's thesis/research paper.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
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>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>> Gustavo
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> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
> Gustavo
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