[open-economics] Getting involved in a working group

Mon Feb 16 22:02:37 UTC 2015

Hi Rodney,

I created a thread in this mailing list so that we could discuss it. I even
created a topic on our forums so that everyone could participate in a more
organized way - I know that keeping up with things in a mailing list can be
difficult.
Nevertheless, the Wiki Rating project is, unfortunately, a thing to forget,
for now. Maybe we will be able to get involved later.

Rodney, I would appreciate if you could contribute more in other areas as
well. It seems you're quite comfortable in this topic - thus, you have some
literatures and approaches. What do you say about it?

2015-02-16 21:59 GMT+00:00 Rodney Beard <rodney.m.beard at gmail.com>:

> Sorry have been a little busy. Am happy to be involved and can advise on
> literature and approach. Libecap's work looks a good place to start. I was
> having trouble trying to figure out how to access the wiki thing.
>
> Rodney
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Gustavo Silva <
> gustavosantaremsilva at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Rodney and Samira, have you two considered the possibility to take over
>> this project? I can take the lead.
>> If you two (and anyone interested) would like, we can schedule a meeting
>> via skype or google hangouts so that we can discuss more in detail every
>> aspect about this possible project. As I will explain soon, Wiki Rating is
>> not a viable choice for us, at the moment.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> 2015-02-02 15:36 GMT+00:00 Gustavo Silva <gustavosantaremsilva at gmail.com>
>> :
>>
>>> Hello Samira and Rodney,
>>>
>>> First of all, I would like to say I sincerely appreciate your interest
>>> in the group!
>>> You both seem to be focused in the Oil Contract theme I brought up
>>> before. Therefore, I am proposing you to take over this project. I can
>>> supervise/coordinate you guys in what you need but I don't know at what
>>> extent I can help you develop it. Nevertheless, I'm here to help, of course!
>>>
>>> I will open a new thread on the mailing list - to get things organized -
>>> and I appreciate if you could follow up the discussion there.
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for showing your interest!
>>>
>>> 2015-02-02 15:22 GMT+00:00 Rodney Beard <rodney.m.beard at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> have been following this with interest, I have a resource economics
>>>> background. It might be worth mentioning some relevant literature at this
>>>> point to structure the oil contract problem a bit. From what I saw of what
>>>> had been done on this already there seemed little connection to the
>>>> economic literature on the subject. However, the database of contracts
>>>> seems very useful. Some literature that appears relevant (apologies it's
>>>> not open access):
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.jstor.org/stable/1803310
>>>> http://jleo.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/2/526.short
>>>>
>>>> There is of-course another way of thinking about oil contracts which is
>>>> in terms of contracts in the commodities markets (e.g. the ICE) but the
>>>> link to the contracts database suggested this literature to me.  The
>>>> original attempt seemed to be vague as to what type of contract was being
>>>> considered.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>>
>>>> Rodney Beard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Samira Niknami <samiraster at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Gustavo,
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all I want to thank you for taking up the responsibility of
>>>>> running this group, it's been inactive for quite a while. Next, I'd like to
>>>>> say that I'm eager to join the working group which is about developing a
>>>>> model of an oil contract.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Samira
>>>>> On Sunday, 1 February 2015, <open-economics-request at lists.okfn.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 01:41:39 +0000
>>>>>> From: Gustavo Silva <gustavosantaremsilva at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: open-economics at lists.okfn.org
>>>>>> Subject: [open-economics] [Discussion] Projects
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>>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My plans to restart this work group consists in calling back some of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> guys that were once involved in the group and get new people
>>>>>> involved. This
>>>>>> is a noble cause and it is not an easy task to get people involved.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> sure after we get enough resources (well, mostly human for now),
>>>>>> projects
>>>>>> will start to flow naturally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore, one of the best ways to get new people is by showing
>>>>>> activity
>>>>>> and showing off great results. Unfortunately, we don't have enough
>>>>>> resources to fulfil some requests (for now, as far as I know) like
>>>>>> this one
>>>>>> <http://discuss.okfn.org/t/idea-brainstorm/179/2>. Considering our
>>>>>> lack of
>>>>>> resources, I believe our best bet is to try to get some of our old
>>>>>> projects
>>>>>> updated and running.
>>>>>> Personally, I find the failed bank tracker the best fit because it is
>>>>>> simpler and I have already thought about what can we do about it
>>>>>> <http://discuss.okfn.org/t/project-failed-bank-tracker/155/1>.
>>>>>> However,
>>>>>> apparently nobody is interested on that. Please let me know what you
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> of my suggestions - either on the forums or by email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also found out that, previously, the group has tried to develop a
>>>>>> theoretical
>>>>>> model of an oil contract
>>>>>> <http://openeconomics.net/2013/10/22/open-model-of-an-oil-contract/>.
>>>>>> Seems
>>>>>> that project didn't go very far. Do you think we could revive it?
>>>>>> Seems we
>>>>>> have this  crisis in that industry so it looks like a great
>>>>>> opportunity.
>>>>>> It can be very troublesome, but if we have enough economists in the
>>>>>> group,
>>>>>> I am pretty sure we can develop something very interesting, under CC
>>>>>> licenses, and prove it using open data. There are a lot of open
>>>>>> groups that
>>>>>> can help us on that, like Open Oil. Open Data, Open Spending and Open
>>>>>> Government (just a few). The idea would be to try and explain how
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> firms behave in their industry and what really counts when they define
>>>>>> their prices (or quantities). What are your thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also thought about using open data to investigate about the
>>>>>> effectiveness
>>>>>> of the austerity measures the European Union has implemented
>>>>>> throughout
>>>>>> time, since 2008. What do you guys think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am running out of ideas for new projects. I would really appreciate
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> help for the time being. Since I am still waiting to get access to our
>>>>>> social media channels (namely, our Twitter account)  and website,
>>>>>> this is
>>>>>> the perfect time to develop a project and publish it, or even
>>>>>> advertise it,
>>>>>> after I get access to the social media channels. How we will proceed
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> regard to any project we decide to go for, we will discuss that in
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> email. Let's focus on getting a project to get started and then we
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> arrange our necessary conditions.
>>>>>> Feel free to brought to discuss ANY project you may have think of.
>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>> something in your daily job or something you can use to extend your
>>>>>> master's thesis/research paper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>>>>> Gustavo
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>>> --
>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>> Gustavo
>>>
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>> --
>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>> Gustavo
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Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
Gustavo
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