[open-economics] Getting involved in a working group

Mon Feb 16 22:07:21 UTC 2015

Will see what I can do but have a day job to consider. Re oil I can advise
on literature and data sources but I think what has been turned up already
is a very interesting source I haven't really seen that exploited before.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Gustavo Silva <
gustavosantaremsilva at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Rodney,
>
> I created a thread in this mailing list so that we could discuss it. I
> even created a topic on our forums so that everyone could participate in a
> more organized way - I know that keeping up with things in a mailing list
> can be difficult.
> Nevertheless, the Wiki Rating project is, unfortunately, a thing to
> forget, for now. Maybe we will be able to get involved later.
>
> Rodney, I would appreciate if you could contribute more in other areas as
> well. It seems you're quite comfortable in this topic - thus, you have some
> literatures and approaches. What do you say about it?
>
> 2015-02-16 21:59 GMT+00:00 Rodney Beard <rodney.m.beard at gmail.com>:
>
>> Sorry have been a little busy. Am happy to be involved and can advise on
>> literature and approach. Libecap's work looks a good place to start. I was
>> having trouble trying to figure out how to access the wiki thing.
>>
>> Rodney
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Gustavo Silva <
>> gustavosantaremsilva at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Rodney and Samira, have you two considered the possibility to take over
>>> this project? I can take the lead.
>>> If you two (and anyone interested) would like, we can schedule a meeting
>>> via skype or google hangouts so that we can discuss more in detail every
>>> aspect about this possible project. As I will explain soon, Wiki Rating is
>>> not a viable choice for us, at the moment.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> 2015-02-02 15:36 GMT+00:00 Gustavo Silva <gustavosantaremsilva at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>>
>>>> Hello Samira and Rodney,
>>>>
>>>> First of all, I would like to say I sincerely appreciate your interest
>>>> in the group!
>>>> You both seem to be focused in the Oil Contract theme I brought up
>>>> before. Therefore, I am proposing you to take over this project. I can
>>>> supervise/coordinate you guys in what you need but I don't know at what
>>>> extent I can help you develop it. Nevertheless, I'm here to help, of course!
>>>>
>>>> I will open a new thread on the mailing list - to get things organized
>>>> - and I appreciate if you could follow up the discussion there.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for showing your interest!
>>>>
>>>> 2015-02-02 15:22 GMT+00:00 Rodney Beard <rodney.m.beard at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> have been following this with interest, I have a resource economics
>>>>> background. It might be worth mentioning some relevant literature at this
>>>>> point to structure the oil contract problem a bit. From what I saw of what
>>>>> had been done on this already there seemed little connection to the
>>>>> economic literature on the subject. However, the database of contracts
>>>>> seems very useful. Some literature that appears relevant (apologies it's
>>>>> not open access):
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.jstor.org/stable/1803310
>>>>> http://jleo.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/2/526.short
>>>>>
>>>>> There is of-course another way of thinking about oil contracts which
>>>>> is in terms of contracts in the commodities markets (e.g. the ICE) but the
>>>>> link to the contracts database suggested this literature to me.  The
>>>>> original attempt seemed to be vague as to what type of contract was being
>>>>> considered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>
>>>>> Rodney Beard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Samira Niknami <samiraster at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Gustavo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all I want to thank you for taking up the responsibility of
>>>>>> running this group, it's been inactive for quite a while. Next, I'd like to
>>>>>> say that I'm eager to join the working group which is about developing a
>>>>>> model of an oil contract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Samira
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>>>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My plans to restart this work group consists in calling back some of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> guys that were once involved in the group and get new people
>>>>>>> involved. This
>>>>>>> is a noble cause and it is not an easy task to get people involved.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> sure after we get enough resources (well, mostly human for now),
>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>> will start to flow naturally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Therefore, one of the best ways to get new people is by showing
>>>>>>> activity
>>>>>>> and showing off great results. Unfortunately, we don't have enough
>>>>>>> resources to fulfil some requests (for now, as far as I know) like
>>>>>>> this one
>>>>>>> <http://discuss.okfn.org/t/idea-brainstorm/179/2>. Considering our
>>>>>>> lack of
>>>>>>> resources, I believe our best bet is to try to get some of our old
>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>> updated and running.
>>>>>>> Personally, I find the failed bank tracker the best fit because it is
>>>>>>> simpler and I have already thought about what can we do about it
>>>>>>> <http://discuss.okfn.org/t/project-failed-bank-tracker/155/1>.
>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>> apparently nobody is interested on that. Please let me know what you
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> of my suggestions - either on the forums or by email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also found out that, previously, the group has tried to develop a
>>>>>>> theoretical
>>>>>>> model of an oil contract
>>>>>>> <http://openeconomics.net/2013/10/22/open-model-of-an-oil-contract/>.
>>>>>>> Seems
>>>>>>> that project didn't go very far. Do you think we could revive it?
>>>>>>> Seems we
>>>>>>> have this  crisis in that industry so it looks like a great
>>>>>>> opportunity.
>>>>>>> It can be very troublesome, but if we have enough economists in the
>>>>>>> group,
>>>>>>> I am pretty sure we can develop something very interesting, under CC
>>>>>>> licenses, and prove it using open data. There are a lot of open
>>>>>>> groups that
>>>>>>> can help us on that, like Open Oil. Open Data, Open Spending and Open
>>>>>>> Government (just a few). The idea would be to try and explain how
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> firms behave in their industry and what really counts when they
>>>>>>> define
>>>>>>> their prices (or quantities). What are your thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also thought about using open data to investigate about the
>>>>>>> effectiveness
>>>>>>> of the austerity measures the European Union has implemented
>>>>>>> throughout
>>>>>>> time, since 2008. What do you guys think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am running out of ideas for new projects. I would really
>>>>>>> appreciate your
>>>>>>> help for the time being. Since I am still waiting to get access to
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> social media channels (namely, our Twitter account)  and website,
>>>>>>> this is
>>>>>>> the perfect time to develop a project and publish it, or even
>>>>>>> advertise it,
>>>>>>> after I get access to the social media channels. How we will proceed
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> regard to any project we decide to go for, we will discuss that in
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> email. Let's focus on getting a project to get started and then we
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> arrange our necessary conditions.
>>>>>>> Feel free to brought to discuss ANY project you may have think of.
>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>> something in your daily job or something you can use to extend your
>>>>>>> master's thesis/research paper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>>>>>> Gustavo
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>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>>> Gustavo
>>>>
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>>> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>> Gustavo
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> Best Regards / Obrigado e com os melhores cumprimentos,
> Gustavo
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