[OpenGLAM] City Archives Amsterdam

Wed Jan 23 09:51:13 UTC 2013

I would agree Maarten

It seems quite a different approach from the RijksMuseum - especially the
Studio  section https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio which encourages
users  not only to edit, comment, and share  ideas about the works but to
 download, dopy, remix and repurpose them.

Perhaps the directors of these organisations from the same city should
speak?

Best
Theo

On 23 January 2013 09:07, Maarten Zeinstra <mz at kl.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Amsterdam City Archives are famous for their locked down position on
> their cultural content. It frustrates me, mainly because they are
> government funded and their policy choices are still based on a analog
> world. The velehanden.nl (many hands) project disproportionally takes
> resources from the volunteers and gives only little back to that community.
> Although it is true that they remunerate their own volunteers by giving
> them a bit of access to their archive, that is not how volunteering works
> on the internet. Like open source development, Wikimedia projects, and the
> like the volunteer gives her/his time to a project to help better the world
> not one archive. It is not only their access policy that is still analog,
>  but also their community management and structure.
>
> As Creative Commons Netherlands we've been in some talks with this
> institution, trying to show them that they are misunderstanding how the
> digital world works. We were unsuccessful.
>
> Talking about family history. I do like to celebrate and point your
> attention to an open dataset of genealogical information of the Leiden
> archive:
> http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opencultuurdata.nl%2Fwiki%2Fregionaal-archief-leiden-genealogische-data%2F<http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://www.opencultuurdata.nl/wiki/regionaal-archief-leiden-genealogische-data/>
>
> So if you are just a tiny bit Dutch check that dataset!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Maarten
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2013, at 24:02 , Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch at okfn.org> wrote:
>
>  On 1/22/13 10:57 AM, Stefano Costa wrote:
>
>  Second, I am curious about what you get exactly when paying 50 cents.
> Is that a copy for your personal use only? Would you be able to
> publish it e.g. on Wikimedia Commons, or circulate it in any way
> without any restriction? If not, then I think it will be more
> difficult to change the current situation. If instead you get an
> unlimited license for 50 cents, the best thing may be to collect 150k
> EUR and "buy" the whole lot, giving a few years of funding to the
> project :-)
>
>
>
> This is a good question. What does the archives "expect" the "buyer" to do
> with the content after they "purchase" it (so many quotes)!
>
> This reminds me of a little story:
>
> A about a year ago, a Wikimedian purchased a high resolution copy of *Arrangement
> in Grey and Black No. 1** (*aka* Whistler's Mother)* and had it
> anonymously uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, where it is now a featured image
> and is used throughout numerous Wikimedia projects like Wikipedia. The
> image cost $500+ for the Wikimedian to purchase. He did this with a little
> extra money he had and asked the community for input about what images
> they'd like to see "freed". I was happy that this one was "freed" as it
> originally appeared on my list. He had to do this anonymously (his username
> is his real last name and it's quite unique, so he had to do this under a
> guise) and had someone else create a fake account and upload it. This is
> because it was against his "agreed" contract with Getty that he could not
> use the image outside of his original requested use claim and Getty could
> sue him for using it in unintended ways. (!?!!?!?!)
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Whistlers_Mother_high_res.jpg
>
> Enjoy mother, the high resolution is so beautiful that it brought tears to
> my eyes the first time I looked at it :)
>
> -Sarah
>
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> Sarah Stierch
> US OpenGLAM Coordinator, Open Knowledge Foundation
> http://www.okfn.org
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Theo Kuechel
Learning Technology Research
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