[OpenGLAM] City Archives Amsterdam

Maarten Brinkerink mbrinkerink at beeldengeluid.nl
Wed Jan 23 17:34:33 UTC 2013


We are indeed working on a survey to have measure this impact of the datasets that were released in the Netherlands as part of the Open Culture Data initiative. Will surely get back to the list about that!

Best,

Maarten

Op 23 jan. 2013, om 18:07 heeft Joris Pekel <joris.pekel at okfn.org> het volgende geschreven:

> Thanks all of you for your opinions.
> @Michael: here is the record of what might be my great grandfather - can not see it at the moment for sure though!
> http://militieregisters.nl/zoek?l00=heemskerk&p04=hendrikus&p06=pekel
> 
> As you can see you can pay 40 cents to view, and 50 to view and download. Although in the terms of use they specify that this scan is for personal use only, I would guess that if you would publish afterwards your PD download on Wiki Commons this would not lead immediately to a lot of trouble, but they officially do not allow it... 
> I really like the idea of 'donations' rather than paying and I would love to see an institution experimenting with this. Anybody knows of examples?
>  
> I've asked the archivist for some statistics about the amount of money they get from their image bank and how this is spent. I will keep you posted. Meanwhile, it would be incredibly interesting to also get metrics from the Leiden dataset and how this open dataset affected them. @Maarten, you are working on that right?
> 
> I am more and more inclined in putting up a blog post. I will see if I can get some statistics first.
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Joris
> 
> 
> 2013/1/23 Stefano Costa <steko at iosa.it>
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> Il 23/01/2013 11:51, theo kuechel ha scritto:
> > I would agree Maarten
> >
> > It seems quite a different approach from the RijksMuseum -
> > especially the Studio  section
> > https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio which encourages users
> > not only to edit, comment, and share  ideas about the works but to
> > download, dopy, remix and repurpose them.
> >
> > Perhaps the directors of these organisations from the same city
> > should speak?
> 
> Perhaps I'm playing the devil's advocate, but please remember that it
> is well known that "big players" (like the Rijksmuseum) are much more
> likely to adopt open policies than smaller and mid-sized ones, because
> they start from a position of privilege, and they have the internal
> resources to continue their standard mission and experiment at the
> same time.
> 
> My suggestion is that:
> 
> 1) if starting from the bottom didn't help, perhaps you could try from
> the the top (e.g. if it is a public institution there must be someone
> on a higher rank than the archives director).
> 2) it would be extremely useful to talk directly to the volunteers and
> tell them about approaches different from the one of velehanden.nl
> 
> Perhaps we should try to summarise the story and our positions in a
> blog post?
> 
> Ciao
> steko
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