[OpenGLAM] Elog.io now up w/ Commons data

Thu Dec 11 12:52:28 UTC 2014

Hi Jonas

There are many such lists and sets out there, but that one I think is an especially good (well, bad!) one.

Looking at Flickr Commons, and especially if you exclude The Internet Archive and British Museum Mechanical Curator sets - that makes it about 500,000 images I think.

But more pertinent to me, what about Europeana? Even if it's just a pilot with a small subset of images we'd be really interested to help you out with this and see what might be possible, and also then see what the scaling issues/costs are.  What source resolution works best for you, to be able to analyse adequately? 

Maybe let's take this conversation off-list.

Best wishes,

James

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From: joberg at gmail.com [joberg at gmail.com] on behalf of Jonas Öberg [jonas at shuttleworthfoundation.org]
Sent: 11 December 2014 13:04
To: James Morley
Cc: Maarten Zeinstra; open-glam at lists.okfn.org
Subject: Re: [OpenGLAM] Elog.io now up w/ Commons data

Hi James,

Quite interesting - I hadn't seen that list of historical photos. It's
also interesting to note where images are *not* part of the Elog.io
catalog yet, especially when it comes to out-of-copyright works. Makes
me wonder where those photographs are, and where we could get
information about them in order to include them in Elog.io.

About Flickr, they are not included in our catalog now. If you browse
Flickr, we've made the "Copy as HTML" work, so that you can at least
get things out of Flickr with an attribution. But if you find an image
from Flickr on another web site, it wouldn't be matched.

We would love to include the openly licensed parts of Flickr, and
especially the images from Flickr Commons and we had some initial
contact with Flickr about this. Unfortunately we don't have the
funding from our side at the moment to scale up to deal with such a
data set (I'm estimating about 400M images).

Sincerely,
Jonas

On 11 December 2014 at 12:16, James Morley <James.Morley at europeana.eu> wrote:
> Hi Jonas
>
> Thanks, all now working - not sure if that was the upgrade (I was already on an almost up-to-date Chrome version) or something you fixed your side. I managed to get it working straight away on Firefox.
>
> Really interesting to see it in action on pages like http://imgur.com/a/vnwC2 (a page I bookmarked ages ago for the very reason that it is a perfect example of zero attribution). It's interesting to see what it finds. Am I also correct thinking that you are picking up matches from Flickr too?
>
> I bet this guy on Twitter would find it handy - https://twitter.com/picpedant
>
> Best, James
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Maarten Zeinstra [mz at kl.nl]
> Sent: 11 December 2014 11:16
> To: Jonas Öberg
> Cc: James Morley; open-glam at lists.okfn.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenGLAM] Elog.io now up w/ Commons data
>
> Hi all,
>
> I had the same problem, updating my browser worked.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Maarten
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>
>
>> On 11 Dec 2014, at 10:54 , Jonas Öberg <jonas at shuttleworthfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> I believe this problem will now have been fixed. Could you try
>> installing again from
>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/elogio-browser-extension/fggflpkcoiangfbhbekafhpkijbglcmi?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Jonas
>>
>> On 11 December 2014 at 09:58, James Morley <James.Morley at europeana.eu> wrote:
>>> Hi Jonas
>>>
>>> I saw you present this at Wikimania London and it looks interesting.
>>>
>>> I just tried installing the Chrome extension on my Mac and it repeatedly tells me 'There was a problem adding the item to Chrome. Please refresh the page and try again'. Any ideas what this might be?
>>>
>>> Thanks, James
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: open-glam [open-glam-bounces at lists.okfn.org] on behalf of Jonas Öberg [jonas at shuttleworthfoundation.org]
>>> Sent: 11 December 2014 09:35
>>> To: open-glam at lists.okfn.org
>>> Subject: [OpenGLAM] Elog.io now up w/ Commons data
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> this may be of interest to some of you who have collections available
>>> through Wikimedia Commons (and to everyone else too, for that matter,
>>> but in different ways).
>>>
>>> Yesterday, we released the public beta of Elog.io, a catalog of
>>> creative works initially seeded with 22,452,638 images from Wikimedia
>>> Commons. Elog.io provides a way to search that collection by a
>>> perceptual hash, which matches an image even if it's been moved away
>>> from Commons, resized, and had its format changed.
>>>
>>> You can get more information and download our browser extensions from
>>> http://elog.io/
>>>
>>> Why is this relevant, you ask? Let's say you really like ferrets, and
>>> you're reading about ferrets on the Examiner web site:
>>> http://www.examiner.com/article/ferret-color-and-pattern-variations
>>> And you see the image of a ferret on a bed and think "this looks
>>> familiar!" With Elog.io, you can match that image of a ferret on a bed
>>> to Wikimedia Commons:
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Domestic_ferret.jpg
>>>
>>> You'll learn where it's from and what license it's under, despite this
>>> not being included in the Examiner web site. The same would be true
>>> for any collection which is part of the Elog.io catalog. As of right
>>> now, we've only included Wikimedia Commons, but we're actively looking
>>> to include other collections too.
>>>
>>> What the browser extensions allow you to do in addition to matching an
>>> image you find
>>> "in the wild" against Wikimedia Commons is that it provides a quick and
>>> handy "Copy as HTML" to copy the image and attribution as a HTML
>>> snippet for pasting into Word, LibreOffice, Wordpress, etc.
>>>
>>> Elog.io is also an open API, which provide lookup functions to find
>>> information using a URL (the
>>> Commons' page name URL) or using the perceptual hash, which can then
>>> be implemented in other applications.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Commons Machinery | jonas at commonsmachinery.se
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