[OpenGLAM] irony of CC-BY without PIs

Tue Jan 28 08:36:16 UTC 2014

Thanks for making this important point, Paul. I will try and make specific documentation of this feature of the PD mark, when hopefully we implement it on larger portions of SMK's collections in the near future. We can discuss this in greater detail on the upcoming OpenGLAM advisory board call.

Best,
Merete

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Fra: open-glam [mailto:open-glam-bounces at lists.okfn.org] På vegne af Paul Keller
Sendt: 27. januar 2014 16:19
Til: Edson, Michael
Cc: open-glam at lists.okfn.org
Emne: Re: [OpenGLAM] irony of CC-BY without PIs

to add to this. the Public Domain Mark provided by creative commons actually offers support for usage guidelines and for specific attribution. both of these are features of the Public Domain Mark that  are probably not really well known/documented/promoted. you can see this feature in action if you click on the license link under any PD work in Europeana. her is an example: 

http://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/9200103/ark__12148_btv1b8434960h.html

once you are on the page of the PDM deed, you will see a link to the Europeana Usage Guidelines, information about the linked work and some code for properly attributing the work. The code contains a link back to the original page. (sometimes these elements load a bit slower than the rest of the deed as they are dynamically fetched). 

i think this feature is both under documented and under promoted and we might want to think about how we can change this. it provides institutions an ability to doe the right thing (label PD works as PD), request attribution (via the usage guidelines) and make it more convenient to provide attribution (via the code). This is very much in line with Dan's thinking on metadata attributions (CC0 has the same functionality) that he outlines in this excellent post: http://www.dancohen.org/2013/11/26/cc0-by/

best, Paul   

On 27 Jan 2014, at 16:08, Edson, Michael <EDSONM at si.edu> wrote:

> Great point, Cath. 
> 
> Yes yes yes: good user experience design is a better guarantor that people
> will respect the "-BY" part of CC-BY than any license, plea, threat, or
> wishful thinking a rights holder can dream up. In addition to good URL
> design, ease of citation, clear writing presented in legible font sizes,
> good overall findability - - all of these encourage users to cite and link
> back to the original source.
> 
> (In our prototyping/testing a few years ago we discovered that users
> *want* to link back to us, but we often make it very difficult for them to
> do so.)
> 
> ;)
> 
> 
> From:  Catherine Styles <cath.styles at gmail.com>
> Date:  Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:07 PM
> To:  "open-glam at lists.okfn.org" <open-glam at lists.okfn.org>
> Subject:  [OpenGLAM] irony of CC-BY without PIs
> 
> 
> Chiming in to the attribution debate about Wellcome Images...
> 
> 
> I've just selected a great set of 95 images to ingest into a
> game of resemblance
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://sembl.net&k=diZKtJPqj4jW
> ksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=OrleOIb4%2FRXNkzweNOIBMA%3D%3D%0A&m=EGAo8WZcwAd9RrUXz
> jNITEU23vFEjCmTGkRy0FIMh0w%3D%0A&s=0dc8ed7126e0d923b6519f16a204ab623179bae8
> ca394e1134b0963d661d8ba1> I'm building. I'm quite happy to attribute
> Wellcome as the source; in fact I'm keen to publish a link back to each
> item,
> so that players can discover as much of the context for each image as
> possible. 
> 
> Trouble is, Wellcome images don't seem to have any kind of unique
> identifier as far as finding them on the web goes. The system seems to
> generate URLs based on the lightbox I've created to (temporarily) store
> them. Most collections will fall short of the
> exemplary Rijksmuseum, State Library of Victoria, Trove etc, with their
> short, guaranteed-persistent identifiers, but really, I'd be happy with a
> reasonably predictable and persistent-looking URL for each thing.
> 
> I've sent a query about it to Wellcome Images, so hopefully there is a
> non-obvious way to do this kind of enhanced (but really, basic!) online
> attribution. 
> 
> My point here and now is simply that if you want attribution, you should
> make it easy  not just to say that this item comes from your collection,
> but to direct people to its home within your collection database.
> Cath
> 
> @cathstyles
> @semblnet
> 
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