[OpenGLAM] One Hundred Million Creative Commons Flickr Images for Research

Wed Jun 25 16:50:36 UTC 2014

Another issue: no photos are actually reproduced with the dataset, right?
So why the focus on CC licensed works? If it's to promote photo sharing
under CC, then fine. But I sense something else--that they think there's
something with the CC license that "permits" the metadata attached to those
photos to flow more freely than metadata attached to photos under all
rights reserved. This isn't the case.

timothy

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Ben O'Steen <bosteen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Re: image search. I've found the search not to be comprehensive and when
> new metadata is added, the index updates in a unreliable manner. I
> regularly harvest the metadata for the images I've uploaded, and have found
> distinct discrepancies between what data I know is there, and what turns up
> in the search results. For example, a number of the images require
> rotating, and Flickr does not offer a way for a user to indicate that to
> the account owner. I suggested to people to tag them with "rotate" to flag
> them up. A search of images tagged with 'rotate' and belonging to my
> account differs considerably from the tag information I know about from my
> daily harvests.
>
> For example, this search is meant to show any image with the tag 'rotate':
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=rotate&m=tags&ss=2&ct=6&mt=all&w=12403504%40N02&adv=1
>
> You may notice that majority of these do not need rotating any longer, and
> do not bear the 'rotate' tag. They likely will all have the 'rotated' tag
> however. A search for this 'rotated' tag shows a different picture again. I
> know that as of 5am this morning, 6462 images have the rotated tag, which
> is a different number to what the search gives me.
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=rotated&m=tags&ss=2&ct=6&mt=all&w=12403504%40N02&adv=1
>
> The search may be better than google's but that isn't saying much. The
> search is also built with textual data. I know that Flickr are
> experimenting behind the scenes with image analysis to provide other routes
> to explore and cluster images together. Imagine if every image on Flickr is
> OCRd, or has a field added indicating the three main colours in the image
> for example. With images, we should strive to do better than a simple
> text-only search.
>
> You are absolutely right to be worried about privacy and licensing
> concerns. They seem to be glossed over. They are pushing the responsibility
> onto researchers but without making it clear that the images have a range
> of licences. Hidden in the T&C for Flickr's sandbox area is a clause saying
> that you must not use it to derive any personally identifying information.
> Leigh Dodds has captured it and put it up for viewing here:
> https://gist.github.com/ldodds/28367dfc533487ea7c5b (line 12 is the key
> line)
>
> And yes, Flickr should just let any user upload with a CC0/PDDL type
> licence if they wish, a real PITA. We were forced to become a member of
> 'The Commons' to do so and now we have no opportunity to use a different
> licence on subsequent photos uploaded to that account. (It always shows 'No
> Known Copyright', regardless of the license I try to apply.)
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On 25 June 2014 16:35, Laurel L. Russwurm <laurel.l at russwurm.org> wrote:
>
>>  Perhaps I just don't understand the point of this, but it seems to me
>> that Flickr already has an image search capability at least as good (if not
>> better than) Google's... and I suspect Google has done something to limit
>> the incidence of Flickr returns in its own search method.
>>
>> My privacy hackles are raised by:
>>
>> "the task is to build a system capable of accurately predicting where in
>> the world the photos and videos were taken without using the longitude and
>> latitude coordinates."
>>
>> Guess its time to only limit cc images purged of metadata or maybe to
>> stop posting cc images to flickr at all.
>>
>> Personally I think it would be much more useful and cost Flickr much less
>> to add the capability for users to post CC0 and public domain marked
>> images.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Laurel L. Russwurm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/25/2014 05:04 AM, Ben O'Steen wrote:
>>
>> An excellent initiative from its description :) It will be interesting to
>> see how this actually pans out.
>>
>>  Ben
>>
>>
>> On 25 June 2014 09:35, Johan Oomen <joomen at beeldengeluid.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning (for those in Europe;-),
>>>
>>> I just came across this announcement from Yahoo Labs: "One Hundred
>>> Million Creative Commons Flickr Images for Research”.
>>>
>>> More information here:
>>> http://yahoolabs.tumblr.com/post/89783581601/one-hundred-million-creative-commons-flickr-images-for
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Johan
>>> @johanoomen
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