[open-government] We need international open government data principles
Baden Appleyard
b.appleyard at ausgoal.gov.au
Fri Jul 8 11:06:19 UTC 2011
Id be happy to participate in that. AusGOAL is the nationally endorsed
cross-jurisdictional framework. It sits with AusGOAL.
________________
*Baden M Appleyard*
National Programme Director
Australian Governments Open Access and Licensing Framework (AusGOAL)
Level 18, Mineral House
41 George Street
BRISBANE, QLD, 4001
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On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
> This is all very valuable information - thank you very much Baden.
>
> Do you think that you and/or any of your colleagues from the
> Australian government would be willing to join a conversation with
> others about drafting and signing a set of international open
> government data principles?
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Baden Appleyard
> <b.appleyard at ausgoal.gov.au> wrote:
> > Currently only the Australian (Federal) Government has the CC-BY Default
> > position. This has been adopted as a result of the Gov 2.0 Taskforce.
> The
> > Australian Information Commissioner has recently issued Principles on
> Open
> > Public Sector Information (also reproduced on the AusGOAL website - "what
> is
> > open"). AusGOAL supports the Principles makes a recommendation that
> other
> > jurisdictions and organisations follow them. The Commissioners principles
> > support AusGOAL (Principle No 6).. and we require the use of the least
> > restrictive licence. (Incidently, this is not a new position, as GILF
> had
> > the same policy on this)
> > With regard to the other jurisdictions in Australia, AusGOAL is a
> nationally
> > endorsed framework, so as we continue its implementation, it will have a
> > similar affect in all of the jurisdictions, and also with our sectoral
> > partners. We are deliberately moving away from the term 'public sector
> > information', and re-focussing on 'publicly funded information'. Some of
> > our blog postings talk about that.
> >
> > The other aspect to all of this is that 5 Australian jurisdictions have
> now
> > enacted right to information laws, requiring them to push information out
> > into the community. However, without open licensing, the policy intent
> of
> > these laws is somewhat cut off at the knees. So our position is that
> > AusGOAL applies to all decisions to release information under an
> information
> > law as well.
> > Sorry this is a bit dis-jointed.-.. been a long day.
> > but happy to discuss/clarify if its not making sense..
> > Cheers
> > b
> > ________________
> > Baden M Appleyard
> > National Programme Director
> > Australian Governments Open Access and Licensing Framework (AusGOAL)
> > Level 18, Mineral House
> > 41 George Street
> > BRISBANE, QLD, 4001 Map
> > Phone: +61 (0)7 3405 0377
> > Mobile: +61 (0)459 824 061
> > Linkedin: http://au.linkedin.com/in/badenappleyard
> > Web: http://www.ausgoal.gov.au
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Brilliant - is that this bit?
> >>
> >> "AusGOAL requires the selection of the least restrictive of the
> >> licences appropriate to the material being published. The AusGOAL
> >> Licence Chooser supports this decision making process. It is also
> >> consistent with jurisdictional policies that require the CC
> >> Attribution licence as the ‘default’ licence."
> >>
> >> Who in Australia is currently responsible for work in this area?
> >>
> >> J.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Baden Appleyard
> >> <b.appleyard at ausgoal.gov.au> wrote:
> >> > Hi Jonathan,
> >> > AusGOAL prefers not to use the term 'default', although it is aligned
> >> > with
> >> > the Australian Government default position. The principles actually
> >> > state
> >> > that you must use the least restrictive licence appropriate to the
> >> > circumstances. Now, we mean use CC-BY, but it wont be CC-BY in some
> >> > admittedly rare cases.. eg. contracts/licences already entered into
> by
> >> > a
> >> > government department may prevent the application of cc-by across some
> >> > data,
> >> > perhaps policy.. eg. safety standards, where mashing up a safety
> >> > standard
> >> > wouldn't be in the public interest.
> >> > The requirement is expressed in the Policy
> >> > here: http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/ausgoal-principles
> >> > Cheers
> >> > b
> >> > ________________
> >> > Baden M Appleyard
> >> > National Programme Director
> >> > Australian Governments Open Access and Licensing Framework (AusGOAL)
> >> > Level 18, Mineral House
> >> > 41 George Street
> >> > BRISBANE, QLD, 4001 Map
> >> > Phone: +61 (0)7 3405 0377
> >> > Mobile: +61 (0)459 824 061
> >> > Linkedin: http://au.linkedin.com/in/badenappleyard
> >> > Web: http://www.ausgoal.gov.au
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks Baden!
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there anything in AUSGOAL about open licensing? I could find
> >> >> "license chooser" but nothing about (default) license guidance...
> >> >>
> >> >> J.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Baden Appleyard
> >> >> <b.appleyard at ausgoal.gov.au> wrote:
> >> >> > Jonathan,
> >> >> > Perhaps the AusGOAL 9 Qualities of Open Data may be of interest?
> >> >> > http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/ausgoal-qualities-of-open-data
> >> >> > Happy to discuss.
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> > B
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ________________
> >> >> > Baden M Appleyard
> >> >> > National Programme Director
> >> >> > Australian Governments Open Access and Licensing Framework
> (AusGOAL)
> >> >> > Level 18, Mineral House
> >> >> > 41 George Street
> >> >> > BRISBANE, QLD, 4001 Map
> >> >> > Phone: +61 (0)7 3405 0377
> >> >> > Mobile: +61 (0)459 824 061
> >> >> > Linkedin: http://au.linkedin.com/in/badenappleyard
> >> >> > Web: http://www.ausgoal.gov.au
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jonathan Gray
> >> >> > <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I just posted this on the OKF blog:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/07/08/we-need-international-open-government-data-principles/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'd really like to try and start a conversation around this again
> -
> >> >> >> with key stakeholders from around the world.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The key thing in my mind is consensus - rather than new content.
> We
> >> >> >> have lots of good conceptual work, and clear wording to build on.
> >> >> >> What
> >> >> >> is needed is to bring key people to the table and to agree on
> >> >> >> something very short and very clear.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Anyone interested? ;-)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Jonathan Gray
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Community Coordinator
> >> >> >> The Open Knowledge Foundation
> >> >> >> http://blog.okfn.org
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://twitter.com/jwyg
> >> >> >> http://identi.ca/jwyg
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jonathan Gray
> >> >>
> >> >> Community Coordinator
> >> >> The Open Knowledge Foundation
> >> >> http://blog.okfn.org
> >> >>
> >> >> http://twitter.com/jwyg
> >> >> http://identi.ca/jwyg
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jonathan Gray
> >>
> >> Community Coordinator
> >> The Open Knowledge Foundation
> >> http://blog.okfn.org
> >>
> >> http://twitter.com/jwyg
> >> http://identi.ca/jwyg
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan Gray
>
> Community Coordinator
> The Open Knowledge Foundation
> http://blog.okfn.org
>
> http://twitter.com/jwyg
> http://identi.ca/jwyg
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