[open-government] We need international open government data principles

Fri Jul 8 11:18:01 UTC 2011

Fantastic. :-)

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Baden Appleyard
<b.appleyard at ausgoal.gov.au> wrote:
> Id be happy to participate in that.  AusGOAL is the nationally endorsed
> cross-jurisdictional framework.  It sits with AusGOAL.
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> Baden M Appleyard
> National Programme Director
> Australian Governments Open Access and Licensing Framework (AusGOAL)
> Level 18, Mineral House
> 41 George Street
> BRISBANE, QLD, 4001  Map
> Phone: +61 (0)7 3405 0377
> Mobile: +61 (0)459 824 061
> Linkedin: http://au.linkedin.com/in/badenappleyard
> Web: http://www.ausgoal.gov.au
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> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> This is all very valuable information - thank you very much Baden.
>>
>> Do you think that you and/or any of your colleagues from the
>> Australian government would be willing to join a conversation with
>> others about drafting and signing a set of international open
>> government data principles?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Baden Appleyard
>> <b.appleyard at ausgoal.gov.au> wrote:
>> > Currently only the Australian (Federal) Government has the CC-BY Default
>> > position.  This has been adopted as a result of the Gov 2.0 Taskforce.
>> >  The
>> > Australian Information Commissioner has recently issued Principles on
>> > Open
>> > Public Sector Information (also reproduced on the AusGOAL website -
>> > "what is
>> > open").  AusGOAL supports the Principles makes a recommendation that
>> > other
>> > jurisdictions and organisations follow them. The Commissioners
>> > principles
>> > support AusGOAL (Principle No 6).. and we require the use of the least
>> > restrictive licence.  (Incidently, this is not a new position, as GILF
>> > had
>> > the same policy on this)
>> > With regard to the other jurisdictions in Australia, AusGOAL is a
>> > nationally
>> > endorsed framework, so as we continue its implementation, it will have a
>> > similar affect in all of the jurisdictions, and also with our sectoral
>> > partners.  We are deliberately moving away from the term 'public sector
>> > information', and re-focussing on 'publicly funded information'.  Some
>> > of
>> > our blog postings talk about that.
>> >
>> > The other aspect to all of this is that 5 Australian jurisdictions have
>> > now
>> > enacted right to information laws, requiring them to push information
>> > out
>> > into the community.  However, without open licensing, the policy intent
>> > of
>> > these laws is somewhat cut off at the knees.  So our position is that
>> > AusGOAL applies to all decisions to release information under an
>> > information
>> > law as well.
>> > Sorry this is a bit dis-jointed.-.. been a long day.
>> > but happy to discuss/clarify if its not making sense..
>> > Cheers
>> > b
>> > ________________
>> > Baden M Appleyard
>> > National Programme Director
>> > Australian Governments Open Access and Licensing Framework (AusGOAL)
>> > Level 18, Mineral House
>> > 41 George Street
>> > BRISBANE, QLD, 4001  Map
>> > Phone: +61 (0)7 3405 0377
>> > Mobile: +61 (0)459 824 061
>> > Linkedin: http://au.linkedin.com/in/badenappleyard
>> > Web: http://www.ausgoal.gov.au
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Brilliant - is that this bit?
>> >>
>> >> "AusGOAL requires the selection of the least restrictive of the
>> >> licences appropriate to the material being published.  The AusGOAL
>> >> Licence Chooser supports this decision making process. It is also
>> >> consistent with jurisdictional policies that require the CC
>> >> Attribution licence as the ‘default’ licence."
>> >>
>> >> Who in Australia is currently responsible for work in this area?
>> >>
>> >> J.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Baden Appleyard
>> >> <b.appleyard at ausgoal.gov.au> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Jonathan,
>> >> > AusGOAL prefers not to use the term 'default', although it is aligned
>> >> > with
>> >> > the Australian Government default position.  The principles actually
>> >> > state
>> >> > that you must use the least restrictive licence appropriate to the
>> >> > circumstances.  Now, we mean use CC-BY, but it wont be CC-BY in some
>> >> > admittedly rare cases.. eg.  contracts/licences already entered into
>> >> > by
>> >> > a
>> >> > government department may prevent the application of cc-by across
>> >> > some
>> >> > data,
>> >> > perhaps policy.. eg.  safety standards, where mashing up a safety
>> >> > standard
>> >> > wouldn't be in the public interest.
>> >> > The requirement is expressed in the Policy
>> >> > here: http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/ausgoal-principles
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> > b
>> >> > ________________
>> >> > Baden M Appleyard
>> >> > National Programme Director
>> >> > Australian Governments Open Access and Licensing Framework (AusGOAL)
>> >> > Level 18, Mineral House
>> >> > 41 George Street
>> >> > BRISBANE, QLD, 4001  Map
>> >> > Phone: +61 (0)7 3405 0377
>> >> > Mobile: +61 (0)459 824 061
>> >> > Linkedin: http://au.linkedin.com/in/badenappleyard
>> >> > Web: http://www.ausgoal.gov.au
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Jonathan Gray
>> >> > <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks Baden!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is there anything in AUSGOAL about open licensing? I could find
>> >> >> "license chooser" but nothing about (default) license guidance...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> J.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Baden Appleyard
>> >> >> <b.appleyard at ausgoal.gov.au> wrote:
>> >> >> > Jonathan,
>> >> >> > Perhaps the AusGOAL 9 Qualities of Open Data may be of interest?
>> >> >> > http://www.ausgoal.gov.au/ausgoal-qualities-of-open-data
>> >> >> > Happy to discuss.
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> > B
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ________________
>> >> >> > Baden M Appleyard
>> >> >> > National Programme Director
>> >> >> > Australian Governments Open Access and Licensing Framework
>> >> >> > (AusGOAL)
>> >> >> > Level 18, Mineral House
>> >> >> > 41 George Street
>> >> >> > BRISBANE, QLD, 4001  Map
>> >> >> > Phone: +61 (0)7 3405 0377
>> >> >> > Mobile: +61 (0)459 824 061
>> >> >> > Linkedin: http://au.linkedin.com/in/badenappleyard
>> >> >> > Web: http://www.ausgoal.gov.au
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jonathan Gray
>> >> >> > <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I just posted this on the OKF blog:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/07/08/we-need-international-open-government-data-principles/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'd really like to try and start a conversation around this again
>> >> >> >> -
>> >> >> >> with key stakeholders from around the world.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The key thing in my mind is consensus - rather than new content.
>> >> >> >> We
>> >> >> >> have lots of good conceptual work, and clear wording to build on.
>> >> >> >> What
>> >> >> >> is needed is to bring key people to the table and to agree on
>> >> >> >> something very short and very clear.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Anyone interested? ;-)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Jonathan Gray
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Community Coordinator
>> >> >> >> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> >> >> >> http://blog.okfn.org
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>> >> >> >> http://identi.ca/jwyg
>> >> >> >>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Jonathan Gray
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Community Coordinator
>> >> >> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> >> >> http://blog.okfn.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>> >> >> http://identi.ca/jwyg
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> --
>> >> Jonathan Gray
>> >>
>> >> Community Coordinator
>> >> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> >> http://blog.okfn.org
>> >>
>> >> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>> >> http://identi.ca/jwyg
>> >
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>> --
>> Jonathan Gray
>>
>> Community Coordinator
>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> http://blog.okfn.org
>>
>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>> http://identi.ca/jwyg
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