[Open-Legislation] openlaws.eu EU Project starting today

Clemens Wass clemens at wass.at
Thu Apr 3 14:31:39 UTC 2014


legislation and case law will always be open and free, that much is sure!
So content will be open and free, YES!

Code: We would think of a few premium software features, that are most
likely to be used/needed only by legal professionals (like lawyers). this
should be fair, because they actually make quite some money using such
tools. If they receive premium value, than this could be a way for a paid
part of the service.

With open access publication I actually referred to legal literature.
If there is a link to publisher content, then there might be a paywall by
the publisher. Again, OA preferred, but we want to take it from today
(completely dominated by publishers) to tomorrow.

Hosting costs and bandwidth: Well, this could be costly. If we need to
replicate data (I hope we can leave it where it is), then this can cause
real traffic. We would have to keep data in sync. If users create there own
personalized PDF legal summaries, than this can also mean traffic. I am no
developer, but I come from an IT company and we spent a fortune there...

Best, Clemens

2014-04-03 16:19 GMT+02:00 Eric Mill <eric at sunlightfoundation.com>:

> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:00 AM, stef <s at ctrlc.hu> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 03:42:36PM +0200, Clemens Wass wrote:
>> > - we get some external support for the hosting for the initial phase
>> > (hosting is not covered by the EU project) but once we have traffic,
>> this
>> > means costs
>> negligible ones.
> I agree, when traffic grows to some substantial level that the costs are
> non-negligible, raise it with the community and work it out with them.
> > - we are asked by the commission to include a business plan to make this
>> > independent and sustainable.
>> i think this is the real challenge in this project. i have the strong
>> suspicion that self-sustainability is incompatible with an ethical
>> licensing
>> of the data.
> Yeah, we're talking about laws, here? "Legislation, case law, and legal
> literature"?  If you're not entering the data into the public domain, and
> you're trying to take the mantle of "open", you're not acting ethically.
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