[open-science] Open Science Microformats/Pattern languages? was Re: Launch of the Panton Principles for Open Data in Science + Is It Open Data?

Jonathan Gray jonathan.gray at okfn.org
Wed Feb 24 10:21:27 UTC 2010

I agree with John that in order to be compliant (as stated in the
principles) data publishers should use a legal tool like CC0 or PDDL
or have some other explicit legal statement about the data. Just
linking to the Panton Principles is not sufficient to show that data
is open. It is equivalent someone wearing a badge saying 'I support
vegetarianism' - which does not say whether or not the person wearing
it is a vegetarian.

Perhaps it could be useful to have a brief guide to making data open
using existing legal tools on Panton Principles site? I.e. CC0/PDDL?
(Which is of course not to say that there aren't other ways of putting
things in public domain...)

All the best,


On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Egon Willighagen
<egon.willighagen at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:31 AM, John Wilbanks
> <wilbanks at creativecommons.org> wrote:
>> Sorry to be pedantic here, but if you do not use a legal tool, you are
>> not in compliance with the principles. In the absence of a legal tool
>> the data *are not open* by default, especially in the uk and the eu.
>> These principles will mean very little if the data they attach to are
>> not legally open.
> I have seen people claim data as OpenData... but I have too been so so
> comfortable using this data, because of the lack of standardized
> waiver (/license)... I endorse PP because it indeed strongly
> encourages to do that.
> I would also say that just claiming OpenData without waiver is not
> quite in compliance with the principles... at least, that's how I read
> them.
> Egon
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