[open-science] Publicising the Panton Principles?

Thu Feb 25 06:17:06 UTC 2010

A few points: yes I had deliberately remixed CC and kin for the option 'PP
in the circle'.

15-pixel-high web buttons are almost a graphic standard. Many footers,
sidebars, signatures, and other web parts are designed for them. It's
sensible and appropriate for PP. Whatever other graphics everyone likes, as
a usability guy myself I vote for buttons at least as an alternative. I have
attached another round of graphics, again as .7z and .zip and will again
insert some below. I also love Fabiana's PP keys, unlocking data and will
get to that in a moment.

Color: The typeface and version of red I had worked with in the first round
were from http://pantonprinciples.org and I take it, from Panton Arms
itself. It makes sense to visually match other OKFN buttons which might be
used concurrently, one of which is "red and green" but not PP red. To
Daniel's idea of using green, I agree except that even sites like
http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/ and http://www.soros.org/openaccess et al.
use several different greens to represent Green OA. If there is a green most
apt, I suppose that is the color named "green" in the W3C HTML and CSS
standards, i.e. #008000 or (R, G, B) of (0, 128, 0).

For web buttons then: whether to favor matching the OKFN set, Panton Arms'
red, or standard green? Perhaps offer all. By OKFN's file naming convention
and the above details the buttons are:

[image:
?ui=2&view=att&th=1270381f0b1437f1&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_1270381f0b1437f1&zw]
pp_95x15_blue.PNG

[image:
?ui=2&view=att&th=127038234042ea97&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_127038234042ea97&zw]
pp_97x15_red_green.PNG

[image:
?ui=2&view=att&th=1270382831aefe9c&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_1270382831aefe9c&zw]
pp_97x15_orange_grey.PNG

[image:
?ui=2&view=att&th=1270382cbfd3f2cb&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_1270382cbfd3f2cb&zw]
pp_95x15_red.PNG -- the red used by PP

[image:
?ui=2&view=att&th=12703832eedda23c&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_12703832eedda23c&zw]
pp_95x15_green.PNG -- "green" say the W3C

Back to Fabiana's keys. We might avoid the circle, but the symbol struck me.
If the buttons above are a minimum impact, Web standard sort of graphic, an
alternative badge might be more decorative. I thought of Panton Arms again
and put Fabiana's graphic in a similarly proportioned shield:

[image:
?ui=2&view=att&th=12703a7f1cf63027&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_12703a7f1cf63027&zw]
or
without the words, [image:
?ui=2&view=att&th=12703bdd2e2c7a71&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_12703bdd2e2c7a71&zw]
except
it makes me think "mustachioed man in glasses" which I hadn't thought with
the words. BG

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Daniel Mietchen <
daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> thanks for getting this started. A few observations:
> -The PP in the circle being close to the CC logo is something that I
> actually like and which you probably intended, but I understand that John
> may have reservations on this.
> - PP has too many possible meanings (e.g. those listed at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pp ), which would dilute the clarity of the
> message.
> - Instead of the circles fading out in spikes, I would actually prefer
> somet kind of meshing gear, to emphasize the reuse aspect. Demo at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gears_animation.gif .
> - Red may not be the best colour to choose for something people are
> intended to support. Green would fit well in this respect, and it could
> probably provide for some spill over from the Green OA movement (in which
> repositories also feature prominently).
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Brian Glanz <brian.glanz at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> For a graphic: I don't want to reopen any wounds :) but circle, "chicklet"
>> AKA button, or a third way: "Web 2.0" style badge using the typeface from PP
>> (Georgia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_%28typeface%29>)? I will
>> insert a few options below and attach more in .7z and.zip, then I can make
>> more of whichever everyone prefers. BG
>>
>> circle:
>>
>> [image:
>> ?ui=2&view=att&th=126fcf40bec3b525&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_126fcf40bec3b525&zw]
>>
>> chicklet or button:
>>
>> [image:
>> ?ui=2&view=att&th=126fcf4647a2f070&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_126fcf4647a2f070&zw]
>>
>> and others matching the OKFN set
>>
>> web 2.0 badge:
>>
>> 1: [image:
>> ?ui=2&view=att&th=126fcf51c1a0933b&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_126fcf51c1a0933b&zw] or
>> 2: [image:
>> ?ui=2&view=att&th=126fcf55dd4dc628&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_126fcf55dd4dc628&zw] or
>> 3: [image:
>> ?ui=2&view=att&th=126fcf60c2653fb1&attid=0.1&disp=attd&realattid=ii_126fcf60c2653fb1&zw]
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Dharma Akmon <dharma.akmon at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Perhaps post to different science listservs?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your suggestion, Dharma! Do you have any ideas about any
>>> particular listservs that might be good to contact? I guess in the UK
>>> this might include several of the JISCmail lists.
>>>
>>> In particular it would be good if people could posts to lists they are
>>> on for their research (where relevant!).
>>>
>>> I've set up a Google Docs to post ideas for publicising and for
>>> keeping track of who has contacted who:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ams8fpz2_77XdE1NNnpjVDYwU2dsdzdLRkZQZmlGaFE&hl=en
>>>
>>> Also anyone interested in helping with a nice 'Panton Principles'
>>> button or similar so people can display endorsement on their website?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> Just wonder if anyone has any cunning ideas about how we can continue
>>> >> to get the word out about the Panton Principles?
>>> >>
>>> >> Would be especially good if anyone had suggestions for people at OA
>>> >> friendly science publications that we could contact! Or even at tech
>>> >> news sites (Slashdot, Wired, ...).
>>> >>
>>> >> Also would much appreciate any further blogging, microblogging,
>>> >> forwarding, etc.!
>>> >>
>>> >> All the best,
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Jonathan Gray
>>> >>
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>>>
>>>
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