[open-science] [Open-access] crowdsourcing platform for academic journals

Jan Velterop velterop at gmail.com
Mon May 20 11:10:39 UTC 2013


Adding to Cameron's post, this quote from the DOI site (http://www.doi.org – in particular http://www.doi.org/doi_handbook/2_Numbering.html item 2.2) may be relevant:

In use, the DOI name is an "opaque string" or "dumb number" — nothing at all can or should be inferred from the number in respect of its use in the DOI system. The only secure way of knowing anything about the entity that a particular DOI name identifies is by looking at the metadata that the Registrant of the DOI name declares at the time of registration. This means, for example, that even when the ownership of a particular item changes, its identifier remains the same — in perpetuity. This is why the DOI name is called a "persistent identifier".

Jan Velterop

On 20 May 2013, at 11:31, Cameron Neylon <cn at cameronneylon.net> wrote:

> 
>> Do you know how to get DOI range?
>> 
>> I'm afraid I don't, but maybe someone on these lists does? 
> 
> Not sure if someone else answered this but technically speaking the idea of a DOI range doesn't really exist. Certain prefixes are granted to publishers but the DOIs are attached to papers, not publishers, thus if a journal moves publishers then the DOIs go with it. Similarly (although I don't think this has happened in practice) a publisher might get a new prefix.
> 
> On top of this there is no requirement for consistency of presentation for the DOI suffix, so the idea of a range which can be traversed by counting through is misleading. For instance BMC DOIs appear to made up of the BMC prefix (10.1186) the journal ISSN and the volume and "page number". You can't count through these. And of course BMC is owned by Springer so who is the "publisher" in this case?
> 
> At the end of the day the DOI prefix can tell you with some confidence which publisher minted the DOI associated with a given paper. CrossRef explicitly say that this can't be relied on - for some of the reasons given above - but I've not come across major problems assuming this.
> 
> Unfortunately the one thing you can't do, which is what would be useful, is to get a full list of DOIs for a given publisher. You can do it per journal if you query search.crossref.org with an ISSN
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Cameron
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > There's a whole load of OA journals & their RSS feeds we could add from DOAJ
>> > with a bit of data munging I think.
>> 
>> Can we do it automatically?
>> 
>> Possibly.
>> 
>> I have a gist of 1176 CC BY licensed OA journals and their ISSN's here. No RSS feeds for them though: https://gist.github.com/rossmounce/5083733
>> 
>> Have you thought about using Crowdcrafting to get people to add details, rather than drupal?
>> e.g. something like this: http://crowdcrafting.org/app/oajournals/ 
>> It might be prettier...
>> 
>>  
>> I just added OA or not field,
>> 
>> Cool. I hope you're using the BOAI definition of OA? A lot of journals online are just 'free access' rather than explicitly open access I'm afraid, and it's tricky to work out which is which. I suggest you change that field to 'free access' (Y/N) to reduce complexity.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> >
>> > Very promising...
>> >
>> > Ross
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: SHEN Liang <shenzhuxi at gmail.com>
>> > Date: 14 May 2013 16:42
>> > Subject: [okfn-labs] crowdsourcing platform for academic journals
>> > To: okfn-labs <okfn-labs at lists.okfn.org>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjfpjwzLd5bUdEY5MF9KUmROaW1WZklOYmoweEtZakE&usp=sharing
>> > is a list of 14266 journals' feed from http://www.journaltocs.ac.uk/
>> > several years ago and they've stopped releasing it.
>> >
>> > I think it will be very useful to have a crowdsourcing platform like
>> > wikipedia for academic journals, so I imported this list into Drupal.
>> > http://shenzhuxi.com/journals is a quick prototype and I'd like to
>> > hear more suggestions.
>> >
>> > wikijournal.org seems to be the best domain name but it's not available.
>> >
>> > More fields like website url, impact factor (not sure about the
>> > copyright), publication frequency, Open Access, RSS/ATOM and etc. will
>> > be good to be added and maintained by the community.
>> >
>> > Also It will be nice to dump all the journal feed items from Google
>> > Reader (https://code.google.com/p/pyrfeed/wiki/GoogleReaderAPI) and
>> > collect regularly in the future. Since Google Reader will be closed
>> > soon, I talked about the historical data with JournalTOCs
>> > https://twitter.com/JournalTOCs/status/312180502184476672, but they
>> > don't have.
>> >
>> > Liang
>> 
>> 
>> 
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