[open-science] [Open-access] Just in: Policy for open access in the post-2014 Research Excellence Framework

[Peter Murray-Rust]

Thanks Michelle,
That would explain the CC-NC - and that's what Hargreaves has gone for with
content-mining. That's understandable as this is the law and requires to be
compatible with whatever UK and EU already has.

But I can't see any rationale for ND.


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Michelle Brook <michelle.brook at okfn.org>wrote:

> It's disappointing, I agree. However, I think the rational, sadly, is the
> response to the consultations they've carried out (Annex B and C).
> Interestingly there is  an interesting paragraph, buried away in Annex B
> that states:
>
> *" We have decided to adopt a two-tier approach to deal with this. The
> first tier of the policy is as follows: outputs that allow anyone to
> search, read and download the text without charge will be compliant with
> the access requirement in the policy. This so-called 'gratis open access'
> can generate huge benefit to researchers and the wider public, and is
> eminently achievable within the existing licensing environment. However, we
> recognise the benefits that more permissive licences can bring, not least
> that they can facilitate the automated use and re-use of content, which
> will help researchers to analyse and reuse the corpus of knowledge far more
> efficiently and imaginatively than before. We strongly encourage
> institutions to provide access to outputs in a way that enables this
> so-called 'libre open access', and intend to give credit to those that do
> so in the research environment component of the next REF. Further details
> of this will be developed in the coming years as part of our planning work
> for the next REF"*
>
>
> We, as a community, really need to be showing the value of CC-BY
> licensing. We need to create use cases and stories to tell policy makers
> (and many academics) about why NC/ND is bad, about why content mining is
> valuable/useful.
>
> As an aside.. the Open Access blog is available for people who want to
> write these kinds of use cases (from around the world) & get them out in
> the public - I'm trying to actively hunt down these stories. Tell the world
> an explicit example of how content-mining has, or will, help you/your area
> of research.
>
> Best,
> Michelle
>
>
>
>
> On 31 March 2014 09:44, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Nor my interpretation.
>> I'd like to see HEFCE's rationale. In Science the primary beneficiaries
>> of ND are the publishers who then have a monopoly on selling reprints.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Christian Heise <
>> christian.heise at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the link!
>>>
>>> Just sad that it says: "While we do not request that outputs are made
>>> available under any particular licence, we advise that outputs licensed
>>> under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Non-Derivative (CC
>>> BY-NC-ND) licence would meet this requirement."
>>>
>>> That's not my "Open".
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 31.03.2014 um 09:20 schrieb Rayna <rayna.st at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Just a quick note: the Higher Education Funding Council for England
>>> (HEFCE) has issued a report with policy guidelines and recommendations
>>> regarding Open Acces. The text is available here:
>>> https://www.hefce.ac.uk/pubs/year/2014/201407/name,86771,en.html(Haven't read the whole yet)
>>>
>>> There is an annexe dedicated to text-mining, which will be of particular
>>> interest to some of you here ;)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rayna
>>>
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>>
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