[open-science] Some ideas what is missing in open science from OpenCon 2014

S.C. Edmunds scott at gigasciencejournal.com
Mon Nov 24 05:59:09 UTC 2014

Regarding an open science census, a few of us at Open Data Hong Kong have
been gathering some of this information from the funders and universities
here (you may have seen some of the early efforts presented at SciDataCon
by Waltraut Ritter). If there are some standardised questions and
methodologies that others have used for this we would be very interested in
hearing them so we can make our efforts interoperable. I don't think HK or
China are OECD countries, but I'm still very interested to see the results
of their survey.

I don't know if people have seen the announcements about the Wiley
"researcher data sharing insights" survey (see the infographic:
but they polled 90,000 researchers around the world on their thoughts
regarding open data. On top of attitudes to data sharing, they also
question them on their funder policies which may be useful here. They are
still in the process of writing this up, but have been very helpful in
sharing their methodology with us as well as teasing the Hong Kong results
out of the ones from China.

Very happy to participate with this, especially from a Hong Kong
perspective (and mainland China if no one else is).


On 24 November 2014 at 02:05, Jenny Molloy <jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Shauna, great suggestion - is anyone on the list from COS and could
> comment if these activities might fit with their work?
> In terms of the census, Mitar's presentation focused on national
> government policies, and I assume Rayna was also commenting on this level.
> The Open Data Index is national and there is an Open Data Census which is
> city level, so I guess the equivalent for science would be institutions.
> This would also be very interesting, but lots more work!
> Do link us to your work on the journal questions though if possibke, as
> I'm sure that will be of interest either way.
> Jenny
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <shaunagm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> It's worth asking the Center for Open Science about hosting some of these
>> projects.  As for the census, who would be being polled?  People?
>> Institutions?  Journals?  Or countries, like in the example?  I am
>> potentially interested in this project, and have done some work towards
>> defining questions at the journal level.
>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Rayna <rayna.st at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey everyone,
>>> Thanks for the insights :)
>>> I've been thinking for sometime now about a science.census.okfn.org
>>> It will quite possibly be structured in a way that differs from the
>>> current census but the idea is there.
>>> The question is what to include: data yes, publications yes, higher ed
>>> education materials perhaps, protocols yes, anything else?
>>> I would suggest we spend the next weeks discussing this over email and
>>> through confcalls.
>>> Who's in? :)
>>> Rayna
>>>  Le 23 nov. 2014 13:28, "Jenny Molloy" <jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com> a écrit
>>> :
>>> Hi Mitar
>>>> Fantastic! I absolutely agree on all of these points and would like to
>>>> invite you and others on the mailing list to help make them happen.
>>>> *Blog aggregation*
>>>> Svetlana also raised the point about the blog aggregator and we looked
>>>> into options, SubjectSeeker seemed favourable, but there was also a
>>>> question about whether we could enact the same functionality in WordPress
>>>> as this is already set up on Open Knowledge servers.
>>>> Status: Need a sandbox to play with the technology. Mike Chelen offered
>>>> to assist with this and I will put him and Svetlana in contact again - who
>>>> else would be interested in playing with solutions for an open science
>>>> 'planet'?
>>>> Make yourself known on the forum:
>>>> http://discuss.okfn.org/t/planet-open-science/94
>>>> *Calendar*
>>>> I've been talking to James Baster at Open Tech Calendar, which seems to
>>>> have exactly the right functionality (community created content, anyone can
>>>> create and edit events, it can pull in from various sites, everything can
>>>> be output as open data). Now we *could* go right ahead and set this up for
>>>> open science, the open source code is here:
>>>> http://ican.openacalendar.org/download.html
>>>> This would however involve having somewhere to host it and a maintainer
>>>> as sysadmin capacity at Open Knowledge is unfortunately finite! James
>>>> offers a hosted version, but we only have a £150 annual working group
>>>> budget which doesn't get us very far so basically we're looking for:
>>>> a) An organisation or group of individuals who have some server space
>>>> and sysadmin capacity to host and maintain this service.
>>>> b) An organisation or group of individuals who see it as a valuable
>>>> service for the community and would be willing to chip in on the hosted
>>>> version.
>>>> There have been discussions about how it might integrate with an *Open
>>>> Knowledge Directory*, this project has had two hangouts to discuss so
>>>> far and will continue to meet and works towards a directory for people
>>>> interested in open knowledge (inc. open science) worldwide. You'd all be
>>>> welcome to join this discussion.
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15_qPe-F6HErzobh36wZgG-4aQec6mkbuykLEdRzPS9E/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> I think it is important as there are 700 of us here on the mailing list
>>>> and most of us have little idea who everyone is and what country they're in.
>>>> *Open Access/Science Census*
>>>> This was discussed at OKFest and a wiki page was created, but so far no
>>>> one has indicated an interest in taking this forward:
>>>> http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_@ccess/Open_Access_Census
>>>> The Open Data Index is still ongoing this year, but once that has died
>>>> down I am happy to talk to the maintainers at Open Knowledge and look into
>>>> repurposing the system (which already has contributions, reviewing,
>>>> visualisations etc set up at http://global.census.okfn.org/).
>>>> You had some great questions already in your presentation.
>>>> OECD have been doing a survey of their member countries about OA and
>>>> open science policies and are likely to release this very soon (Giulia Ajmone
>>>> Marsan is the main contact). We could likely include this information as a
>>>> starting point.
>>>> Thanks so much for making all of these points at OpenCon and I hope
>>>> from now into the New Year we can really take some positive steps to
>>>> filling these gaps in the open access and open science community. This is
>>>> not an Open Knowledge organisation specific set of projects, we should be
>>>> aiming to bring everyone together and not fragment or duplicate effort so
>>>> if you manage an open science community and are already considering these
>>>> tools or already maintain a system that could scale then do please weigh in
>>>> on the discussion!
>>>> Excited to see where we can take this - I'd love to see at a glance
>>>> what open science events are happening in South America next month and who
>>>> is blogging about reproducibility and open data this week. It's do-able now
>>>> but not in a way that is either simple or conducive to sharing and
>>>> community cohesion - we can definitely do better!
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Mitar <mmitar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> I presented few ideas what is missing in open science and open access
>>>>> community at OpenCon 2014:
>>>>> http://mitar.tnode.com/post/103272799066/presenting-some-ideas-of-what-is-missing-in-open
>>>>> Mitar
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://mitar.tnode.com/
>>>>> https://twitter.com/mitar_m
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