[open-science] Elsevier are telling "mis-truths" about the extent of paywalled open access

P Kishor punk.kish at gmail.com
Tue Feb 21 23:16:23 UTC 2017

> On Feb 21, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Heather Morrison <Heather.Morrison at uottawa.ca> wrote:
> The reason why CC licensing is relevant is because there is an assumption that if funder policy demands CC-BY, this is sufficient to ensure open access. This case is a good one to reflect on the wisdom of this approach.

That may be your assumption but that is not my assumption. CC licenses are necessary but not a sufficient condition for open access. But they never were, and no one who understands CC licenses and their role correctly will make that assumption. If I apply CC license to my work but never put that work on a website that is freely and openly accessible to everyone, I will not make my work open access. Please don't conflate these unrelated issues that are also irrelevant to the topic of the current thread. Elsevier took money and made a promise; Elsevier broke that promise. The community is trying to and can hold Elsevier accountable without having to take them to a court of law.

If you don’t want to use CC licenses, fine, then don't. No one is being compelled to use CC licenses. But if you want to call your work open in the same meaning that accorded to the word open by the general community, as defined by Open Definition, among other norms, then *one* of the things you will have to do is to apply a CC (or a similarly open) license to your work.

Puneet Kishor
Just Another Creative Commoner

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