[Open-transport] OTD Handbook update

Mati Kalwill matias.kalwill at gmail.com
Tue Oct 9 20:57:01 UTC 2012

Thanks Steph, that sounds great. I'm good to give it a go, if Pieter
confirms bikes are in the scope of the document outcome



On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Stéphane Guidoin <stephane at opennorth.ca>wrote:

> My take: biking should be part of the transportation initiatives. As said,
> some of my contact here in Canada/U.S targets bike for open data. It tend
> to be easier for than to grow bike use than transit ridership (because it's
> costly to support more ridership). So making biking easier is a natural fit
> and I feel that more and more would like to rely on good bike-related data.
> The 3 items I've heard the most until now:
> - Bike lane/bike friendly road network. Organizations like Google do
> gather this data but do not make it open... so useless for other uses
> - Bike parking/spots. More and more cities even have some "boxes" to store
> the bike. Sometimes it's privately owns, so it's more difficult to get the
> data... but private companies providing bike boxes won't be against
> figuring in a dataset which will bring them some potential customers (but
> the maintenace is harder)
> - Bike sharing system. The Montreal's system (Bixi) is available in
> several other places (Washington, London, etc.) so the same apps usually
> cover those cities, but it's not standard enough to have some third party
> (think Google again) to integrate this data in their apps.
> I don't have much experience in participating to this kind of document
> either ;) My way of doing: read the open data handbook (the original one)
> to give an idea of the level of detail expected, the relevant stuff to put
> there. Then, read the current draft and thing where you could fit the bike
> data. It would be great if some other people like Pieter could confirm that
> bike is in the scope before actually writing something... but with Google
> Docs, it's quite easy to undo some changes...
> Cheers
> Steph
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Mati Kalwill <matias.kalwill at gmail.com>wrote:
>> Hello everyone!
>> First of all an introduction, my name is Mati Kalwill. I joined the list
>> around a month ago but hadn't had the chance to become active on the
>> conversation just yet. So Stéphane's comment on his last message is the
>> perfect cue to join in :)
>> I'm the founder of a youth-lead international group called La Vida en
>> Bici <http://lavidaenbici.com>, based in Buenos Aires, Argentina. We are
>> small in number but very active and have achieved considerable impact for
>> the limited resources and time we have been around. Our first international
>> initiative, Bikestorming <http://bikestomring.org>, is under very active
>> development. Building, using, sharing and promoting Open Data in transport
>> is a key part of it.
>> Since I'm new to the group, I'd like to ask you guys what you think would
>> be possible ways to contribute to the Open Data Group in terms of cycling
>> data. I should tell you that as of now, we are both looking into existing
>> examples of Open Data on urban cycling, as well as the development of new,
>> non-existing standards. We call this the Open Bicycle Data Initiative.
>> Part of our work has been the development of a collaborative map, as a
>> knowledge-sharing initiative between experienced and upcoming urban
>> cyclists: http://lavidaenbici.com/mapa
>> Also, our local government has an Open Data initiative wich we have
>> contributed to. You'll notice that 4 out of the 9 Transport data sets
>> relate to bicycles ;)
>> http://data.buenosaires.gob.ar/group/transporte-y-movilidad
>> As I mentioned above, do let me know what you'd consider possible ways of
>> contribuiting to the hand-book. We haven't worked on a collaborative
>> writting like this before, so some pointers on how to get started would be
>> great.
>> Thanks,
>> Mati Kalwill
>> Founder, Director La Vida en Bici <http://lavidaenbici.com> &
>> Bikestorming.org
>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Stéphane Guidoin <stephane at opennorth.ca>wrote:
>>> Ok, I've added some elements about traffic here and there. I think it
>>> would be worth explaning somewhere that until now, most of the experiences
>>> which took place were in the domain of public transportation/transit...
>>> thus a biais in terms of coverage of the topic but other fields should also
>>> be covered.
>>> I also raised a question in the docs but it could be discussed on the
>>> mailing list: should be cover "active" transportation like biking, walking,
>>> etc. From some discussion that I have with cities willing to publish some
>>> data, many are considering bike parking data, bike sharing schemes and so
>>> on. Some elements about walkability/accessibility are also raised.
>>> Steph
>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Pieter Colpaert <pieter at irail.be> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> It's pretty clear that we won't get our deadline of the first of
>>>> October. Let's procrastinate a bit and move all deadlines 1 month. This
>>>> means the OTD Handbook could get published the first of December.
>>>> More updates:
>>>>  * We've got new contributors!
>>>>  * I got a legal IP office to write the from a legal perspective section
>>>>  * iRail (my Belgian organisation) is going to sponsor a graphic
>>>> designer who will take care of the graphic design (for those who have
>>>> met her in Helsinki: Miet)
>>>> We still need:
>>>>  * More text! For those who have added their name in the document, can
>>>> you give me an estimate of when it will be done?
>>>>  * A copywriter! I want the text to sound like it has been written by
>>>> one person, in grammatically correct English (that may be a problem for
>>>> all non-native speakers, especially myself). Is someone willing to step
>>>> forward and do this? Or should I search funding for this and hire a
>>>> professional copywriter?
>>>>  * Funding for printing the book and sending it to everyone. A rough
>>>> estimate is €30 per book (all costs included), let's print and
>>>> distribute 500 copies, meaning we need €15000 for this. If we cannot
>>>> find this funding it will, evidentially, become an online book only.
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Pieter
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> Stéphane Guidoin
> Director, Transportation
> Open North
> 514-862-0084
> http://opennorth.ca
> Twitter: @opennorth / @hoedic


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