[Open-transport] OTD Handbook update

Tue Oct 9 21:36:07 UTC 2012

Hi Stéphane,

I confirm it is in the scope. Go for it and thanks for your enthousiasm!

Kind regards,

Pieter
Op 9-okt.-2012 22:57 schreef "Mati Kalwill" <matias.kalwill at gmail.com> het
volgende:

> Thanks Steph, that sounds great. I'm good to give it a go, if Pieter
> confirms bikes are in the scope of the document outcome
>
> Best,
>
> MK
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Stéphane Guidoin <stephane at opennorth.ca>wrote:
>
>> My take: biking should be part of the transportation initiatives. As
>> said, some of my contact here in Canada/U.S targets bike for open data. It
>> tend to be easier for than to grow bike use than transit ridership (because
>> it's costly to support more ridership). So making biking easier is a
>> natural fit and I feel that more and more would like to rely on good
>> bike-related data.
>>
>> The 3 items I've heard the most until now:
>> - Bike lane/bike friendly road network. Organizations like Google do
>> gather this data but do not make it open... so useless for other uses
>> - Bike parking/spots. More and more cities even have some "boxes" to
>> store the bike. Sometimes it's privately owns, so it's more difficult to
>> get the data... but private companies providing bike boxes won't be against
>> figuring in a dataset which will bring them some potential customers (but
>> the maintenace is harder)
>> - Bike sharing system. The Montreal's system (Bixi) is available in
>> several other places (Washington, London, etc.) so the same apps usually
>> cover those cities, but it's not standard enough to have some third party
>> (think Google again) to integrate this data in their apps.
>>
>> I don't have much experience in participating to this kind of document
>> either ;) My way of doing: read the open data handbook (the original one)
>> to give an idea of the level of detail expected, the relevant stuff to put
>> there. Then, read the current draft and thing where you could fit the bike
>> data. It would be great if some other people like Pieter could confirm that
>> bike is in the scope before actually writing something... but with Google
>> Docs, it's quite easy to undo some changes...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Steph
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Mati Kalwill <matias.kalwill at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone!
>>>
>>> First of all an introduction, my name is Mati Kalwill. I joined the list
>>> around a month ago but hadn't had the chance to become active on the
>>> conversation just yet. So Stéphane's comment on his last message is the
>>> perfect cue to join in :)
>>>
>>> I'm the founder of a youth-lead international group called La Vida en
>>> Bici <http://lavidaenbici.com>, based in Buenos Aires, Argentina. We
>>> are small in number but very active and have achieved considerable impact
>>> for the limited resources and time we have been around. Our first
>>> international initiative, Bikestorming <http://bikestomring.org>, is
>>> under very active development. Building, using, sharing and promoting Open
>>> Data in transport is a key part of it.
>>>
>>> Since I'm new to the group, I'd like to ask you guys what you think
>>> would be possible ways to contribute to the Open Data Group in terms of
>>> cycling data. I should tell you that as of now, we are both looking into
>>> existing examples of Open Data on urban cycling, as well as the development
>>> of new, non-existing standards. We call this the Open Bicycle Data
>>> Initiative.
>>>
>>> Part of our work has been the development of a collaborative map, as a
>>> knowledge-sharing initiative between experienced and upcoming urban
>>> cyclists: http://lavidaenbici.com/mapa
>>>
>>> Also, our local government has an Open Data initiative wich we have
>>> contributed to. You'll notice that 4 out of the 9 Transport data sets
>>> relate to bicycles ;)
>>> http://data.buenosaires.gob.ar/group/transporte-y-movilidad
>>>
>>> As I mentioned above, do let me know what you'd consider possible ways
>>> of contribuiting to the hand-book. We haven't worked on a collaborative
>>> writting like this before, so some pointers on how to get started would be
>>> great.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mati Kalwill
>>> Founder, Director La Vida en Bici <http://lavidaenbici.com> &
>>> Bikestorming.org
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Stéphane Guidoin <stephane at opennorth.ca>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I've added some elements about traffic here and there. I think it
>>>> would be worth explaning somewhere that until now, most of the experiences
>>>> which took place were in the domain of public transportation/transit...
>>>> thus a biais in terms of coverage of the topic but other fields should also
>>>> be covered.
>>>>
>>>> I also raised a question in the docs but it could be discussed on the
>>>> mailing list: should be cover "active" transportation like biking, walking,
>>>> etc. From some discussion that I have with cities willing to publish some
>>>> data, many are considering bike parking data, bike sharing schemes and so
>>>> on. Some elements about walkability/accessibility are also raised.
>>>>
>>>> Steph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Pieter Colpaert <pieter at irail.be>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's pretty clear that we won't get our deadline of the first of
>>>>> October. Let's procrastinate a bit and move all deadlines 1 month. This
>>>>> means the OTD Handbook could get published the first of December.
>>>>>
>>>>> More updates:
>>>>>  * We've got new contributors!
>>>>>  * I got a legal IP office to write the from a legal perspective
>>>>> section
>>>>>  * iRail (my Belgian organisation) is going to sponsor a graphic
>>>>> designer who will take care of the graphic design (for those who have
>>>>> met her in Helsinki: Miet)
>>>>>
>>>>> We still need:
>>>>>  * More text! For those who have added their name in the document, can
>>>>> you give me an estimate of when it will be done?
>>>>>  * A copywriter! I want the text to sound like it has been written by
>>>>> one person, in grammatically correct English (that may be a problem for
>>>>> all non-native speakers, especially myself). Is someone willing to step
>>>>> forward and do this? Or should I search funding for this and hire a
>>>>> professional copywriter?
>>>>>  * Funding for printing the book and sending it to everyone. A rough
>>>>> estimate is €30 per book (all costs included), let's print and
>>>>> distribute 500 copies, meaning we need €15000 for this. If we cannot
>>>>> find this funding it will, evidentially, become an online book only.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pieter
>>>>> --
>>>>> iRail vzw/asbl
>>>>> +32 (0) 486/747122
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> open-transport mailing list
>>>>> open-transport at lists.okfn.org
>>>>> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-transport
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Stéphane Guidoin
>>>> Director, Transportation
>>>> Open North
>>>> 514-862-0084
>>>> http://opennorth.ca
>>>> Twitter: @opennorth / @hoedic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> open-transport mailing list
>>>> open-transport at lists.okfn.org
>>>> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-transport
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *
>>> *
>>> **
>>>
>>> Mati Kalwill
>>> LA VIDA EN BICI, Director
>>> matias.kalwill at gmail.com
>>> (+54911) 6 480 0992 - (+5411) 4778 1063
>>> Seguinos en Twitter <http://twitter.com/lavidaenbici>, Facebook<http://facebook.com/lavidaenbici>
>>> www.lavidaenbici.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stéphane Guidoin
>> Director, Transportation
>> Open North
>> 514-862-0084
>> http://opennorth.ca
>> Twitter: @opennorth / @hoedic
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *
> *
> **
>
> Mati Kalwill
> LA VIDA EN BICI, Director
> matias.kalwill at gmail.com
> (+54911) 6 480 0992 - (+5411) 4778 1063
> Seguinos en Twitter <http://twitter.com/lavidaenbici>, Facebook<http://facebook.com/lavidaenbici>
> www.lavidaenbici.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> open-transport mailing list
> open-transport at lists.okfn.org
> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-transport
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-transport/attachments/20121009/47f3969f/attachment.html>