[Open-transport] Real-time movement data for Channel Tunnel

[Thomas]

Oh and one addition. Since today all static timetables are available under
CC0 except for the train timetable. Data is exported in the Dutch variant
of Transmodel (Koppelvlak1) but a migration to NeTEX is planned (someday).


On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Thomas <thomaskoch at gmail.com> wrote:

> We've had a simple REST api with realtime departure times for years, than
> about 2 years ago we've gotten access to static timetables. Now recently
> the release-path for realtime push feeds became more hard. Three months ago
> a push feed of realtime departure times became available. Unfortunately
> there are still no realtime arrival times available anywhere but the HAFAS
> website.
> Further complication is that the Dutch network authority (ProRail)
> transferred the passenger-information division to the largest operator
> (Nederlandse Spoorwegen), despite anti-trust objects by competitors.
> Another complication is that Nederlandse Spoorwegen insists on using their
> 42% daughter-company 9292|Reisinformatiegroep BV (probably most comparable
> to the ATOC) for the distribution of this data, instead of a organization
> both experienced with realtime-data and IT servicing such as Rockshore.
>
> Also the license under which the data becomes available is much much
> restrictive than NetworkRail's, there are clauses about the data not being
> allowed to measure performance and not to "damage" the operator beyond a
> "non-judgemental view of truthful facts".
> On the bus/tram/metro aspect we're very much leading though, the open-data
> push feed of realtime bus/tram/metro delay's now has a 99% nation-wide
> coverage and will be 100% in a matter of weeks. That data is under a
> permissive license but an increasing amount of traffic-authorities are
> releasing it under CC-0, currently those are the Province of Noord-Holland
> and the metropolitian region's of Utrecht, The Hague and Amsterdam. Here's<https://twitter.com/openOV/status/417421475319009281/photo/1>a map overview, light-green is CC0, dark-green GOVI license, pink-red is
> soon unavailable and red is not available.
>
> Maybe we'll see train movement data, such as available in the UK, one day
> in the Netherlands, but i won't be as simple as to "just ask" ;). For now
> we have to do it with just real-time bus/tram/metro positions on
> www.ovradar.nl.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Thomas Koch
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Peter Hicks <peter.hicks at poggs.co.uk>wrote:
>
>>
>> On 8 Jan 2014, at 12:49, Thomas <thomaskoch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Sad to see the state of open railway data in 2014 :/. It's just UK,
>> Netherlands, France in that order and then nothing.
>>
>> We are only 8 days in to 2014 - maybe it will change.
>>
>> How far ahead are we (UK) from .NL?
>>
>> Incidentally, there is some more reference data about the UK railway
>> network being released in a few weeks - I am working on the documentation
>> for it at the moment.
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>
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