[Open-transport] We Move Project : Open Delays

Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpaert at okfn.org
Fri Oct 17 08:45:21 UTC 2014

Legal status:
  * No copyright, no sui generis (according to second European database 
law, see my previous mail)
  * Scraping itself can be seen as abusing server infrastructure of 
railway companies or unlicensed use of the software on these servers. 
Yet, "scraping" or "accessing the web using machines" is what the Web is 
for, cfr. RDFa, microformat, html5, linked data and so on. If scraping 
would be illegal, Google wouldn't be able to exist.

Kind regards,


On 2014-10-17 10:35, Simone Cortesi wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:38 PM, samuel jouan <samueljouan at hotmail.fr> wrote:
>> I'm making an internship with We Move.center, a new civic organization
>> involved in promoting European citizens' rights in mobility. I consider now
>> makin a short term project on open data, that aims to gather trains delay
>> exploitation data, from http://www.railtime.be/ directly in the HTML code,
>> with a python script that will update the database every hour with a
>> scheduler task, so as to be able to keep data more than a week (a bit like
>> trainenretard.be, but with different aims).
> I would be very nice to see it coming for italy too,
> here the delays for the italian train network:
> http://www.viaggiatreno.it/viaggiatrenonew/
> What is the legal status of this? Trenitalia explicitly prohibits such
> scraping tecniques.


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