[wsfii-discuss] Economic Sustainability of Community Wireless

Thu Apr 26 14:58:36 UTC 2007

Hi people,

sorry, all this talk about living without money is a bit... well.. retro

Anyay, without having read all of the mails of this long thread  
before, I want to simply
point you to our sustanability answer for the Vienna funkfeuer.at  
network:

http://housing.funkfeuer.at

It works very well, people put their servers into our housing / co- 
location cellar , they have a benefit from it (good inet connection)  
and the wireless community network (funkfeuer) gets bandwidth.
It is neither a corporation / nor a company but simply a way to make  
our freenet sustainable for years to come.

voila!

best regards,
aaron.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:22 PM, marco wrote:

> hi thomas
>
>
> Thomas M. wrote:
>>
>> reading all these texts on business model, economic sustainability,
>> ... I started thinking about what is the economical model, in my way
>> of understanding it is model of society based primarily on money, And
>> I thought isnit a way to have an alternative kind of society based on
>> others values than money?
> I do agree so far but want to add that the living without money,
> virtual, paper or coins, is an ideal, a good one certainly. our  
> society
> is so deeply structured by markets (and markets base and  
> commodities as
> money is this special commodity for exchange) that we cannot just
> switch, even if all people would have this idea spontaniously. u have
> been implicating it - i just wanted to expilcate ...
>
> the frontline is set by economical power today. to work out something
> means to get independend from profitmaximisation and shareholders.
> people, currently bare of resources and means of production, have  
> to get
> economical power in a structured way, having short/longterm strategies
> to work at. the democratisation of economy is the core of what i  
> believe
> have to be done. and this means a fight against previleges,  
> exploitation
> and oppression at all levels of society ... good intentions are not
> sufficient. we need networking, strategies and structuring on that  
> behalf!
> have anybody seen the documentary "The Corporation"?
>
> http://www.thecorporation.com/
>
> grts, marco, berlin
>
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