[wsfii-discuss] REVIEW - Wireless Training in Winneba

Wed Aug 22 11:44:22 UTC 2007

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Hi
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> I think Vickram has a lot of relevant points. (see below)
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> Workshops can deliver effectively only a certain distance - to distribute new skills, to enthuse and energize people and to make friends and contacts. The high of the workshop and the energy generated - specifically the visions generated and fantasized often come crashing back to earth because the real world is a "bit" more difficult than the workshop + positive environment. Group energy works differently from individual energy
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let me put the question a little wider: What benefits can we expect from a specific event? it is certainly a part of every events preparation to set up an agenda, in which the event is located, in which the the event is playing a certain role. When we have a conclusion on that we can easily identify how the meeting should look like. We need experieneces like dharamsala or winneba to actually learn about ourselves: What do we want? Knowing more about that we will know who to bring in, I guess.

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> The "real world" has lots of distractions and other attendent problems - physical resources, problem solving capabilities, human resources. The poorer and less connected the community the harder and slower it is to make things happen.
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> A question i have for participants of workshops (esp the hands on one) is that how many have a plan of how they are going to use their learning. - Frankly this is a very tough question to answer. How many workshops build into their programme a real follow up mechanism and a real assurance of help. Workshop organizers don't get me wrong but across the spectrum this is a lacunae - where do we draw the line between how much to spend on workshops and how much to spend on enabling a programme. 
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> Indians / South asians  (since thats my context)  on this list are free to disagree - but we do not have the resource people who are willing to work / help with small  less resourced projects - the bigger the project the scale goes further away from the poorer communities. 
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That is definitly a problem but not an automatism. It depends on the ability of the organizers to combine good contacts to grassroots project as well as big NGOs, ministries and other sponsors.

grts, marco

ex-cathedra means something like frontal teaching. one is talking, all others are humbly listening ;)

> ram
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> On 8/22/07, Vickram Crishna <v1clist at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Speaking as a 'local' from a 3rd world country, I have
> witnessed the difficulty faced in organising local
> events that will justify the time and effort put in by
> participants who will travel far and wide to be there.
> 
> Thing is, so do the locals, often enough, although
> that doesn't seem to be so obvious to outsiders till
> they get (t)here.
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> For such events to happens smoothly (and believe me
> this has nothing to do with 'self-organising', but
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> unfortunately is perhaps perceived as being related),
> even the local groups need support.
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> The regrettable truth is that the costs of such
> support are more or less the same as needed to meet
> the ongoing costs of such events anywhere in the
> 
> world, but are considered to be out of 'proportion' to
> the results. Which is to say, locals cope with and
> often overcome obstacles that do not exist in other
> parts of the world. Naturally, this is not valued
> 
> proportionately.
> 
> A reality we all face is that the value of things
> (resources, efforts, human time and ingenuity) is
> equated to money, but that money (currently, or
> perhaps inherently) does not reflect the equitable
> 
> value of the resources expended. Part of the wsfii
> think process is naturally aimed at overcoming this.
> Seems like Winneba has richly illustrated it.
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