[wsfii-discuss] RE: Trainerspot Webinars: A Potential tooltospread wsfii ideas to Africa and Developing World

Tue Jul 3 02:32:48 UTC 2007

This is not exactly a wsfii topic, yet I feel that it
is related.

I am not aware of any accessible application that
enables me as a user to pull together the content from
 all the multimedia sources (including media
interchanges that include sharing live working
documents across networks) that will replace or
supplant the values of physical meetings, including
practical workshops.

If we were to initiate a project to achieve such a
thing, my wishlist would be a document or interface
that has direct links to each event, linked in
calendar sequence but also crosslinked by topic. 

I should be able to enter any 'chain', and even
wander, if I want, between chains, and return to any
point in any chain at will. 

Of course, it should be multilingually capable.

--- asif.daya at trainerspod.com wrote:

> Vickram you state : My point is that a more
> integrative application for
> learning is necessary
> Yet you go on to say: and the integrative apps like
> netmeeting and so on are
> not good enough for the kind of real world learning
> 
> Where you are calling them integrative apps. How
> integrative do you want it?
> 
> Asif
>  
> http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS
> http://www.trainerspod.com/community
> http://www.trainerspod.com/info
> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this
> message.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wsfii-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org
> [mailto:wsfii-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On
> Behalf Of Vickram Crishna
> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:49 PM
> To: Discuss list on the World Summit on Free
> Information Infrastructure
> Subject: RE: [wsfii-discuss] RE: Trainerspot
> Webinars: A Potential
> tooltospread wsfii ideas to Africa and Developing
> World
> 
> --- Jeff Buderer <jeff at onevillagefoundation.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Yet in my view it is not so much the technologies
> themselves but how 
> > we use them. So my thought is that the ultimate
> disruptive technology 
> > is the system or process for integrating them as
> part of a 
> > comprehensive ICT4D approach that can be
> replicated to other regions 
> > rapidly.
> > 
> 
> My point is that a more integrative application for
> learning is necessary -
> all these discrete media, such as email, telephony,
> videomail etc, and the
> integrative apps like netmeeting and so on are not
> good enough for the kind
> of real world learning that should be a reason for
> pushing the new world
> technologies forward in the first place.
> 
>  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wsfii-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org
> > [mailto:wsfii-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On
> Behalf Of Vickram 
> > Crishna
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:59 AM
> > To: Discuss list on the World Summit on Free
> Information 
> > Infrastructure
> > Subject: Re: [wsfii-discuss] RE: Trainerspot
> > Webinars: A Potential tool
> > tospread wsfii ideas to Africa and Developing
> World
> > 
> > Aside from Asif's application, some of us have
> been using Gizmo and 
> > Skype for the monthly conference Laura organised.
> I must admit my own 
> > bandwidth limitations have made this a less than
> enjoyable session for 
> > me, and the unreliability of the connection itself
> makes it hard to 
> > actually be sure to attend.
> > 
> > All the more reason to fervently want broadband
> for all. And an 
> > application that will make it easier to get a grip
> on - and 
> > participate in! - all the different things
> happening around the world. 
> > So far, in my humble opinion, lists,
> conversations, wikis and 
> > conferences don't even begin to make the cut.
> > 
> > --- jeff buderer <jeff at onevillagefoundation.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Things seem to have gotten pretty quiet here.
> > >  
> > > Any volunteers willing to take Asif up on his
> > offer?
> > >  
> > > Anyone a bit curious about Asif and what he does
> > and
> > > how it might relate
> > > to the future of wsfii?
> > >  
> > > I think this could evolve into real opportunity
> to put together some 
> > > web conferences to better link together our
> network
> > and
> > > also be a way to
> > > demonstrate how we can effectively use ICT tools
> without having to 
> > > travel to meet someone in person at a conference
> > or
> > > other physical
> > > location.
> > >  
> > > Jeff
> > >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: asif.daya at trainerspod.com
> > > [mailto:asif.daya at trainerspod.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:35 PM
> > > To: jeff at onevillagefoundation.org;
> > > wsfii-discuss at lists.okfn.org
> > > Subject: RE: Trainerspot Webinars: A Potential
> > tool
> > > to spread wsfii
> > > ideas to Africa and Developing World
> > >  
> > > Jeff:
> > > 
> > > You can get a detailed info about trainerspod
> from the links below 
> > > and the sublinks below those pages especially
> the home page and 
> > > community page. There are links at the bottom to
> follow.
> > >  
> > > Yes, it would be nice to have volunteers put
> together a webinar.
> > >  
> > > I too would love feedback on Wi-Max.
> > >  
> > > I hear sound foundry is pretty good too. But I
> had someone from 
> > > Africa login at 28.8 modem into our Webinar held
> in the USA. Video 
> > > would be an impossibility - but there are
> options for video
> > and
> > > showing your desktop
> > > or the www. You can try it out at:
> > > http://www.vroom.com or
> > > http://www.elluminate.com/vroom where you can
> > login
> > > and invite two other
> > > colleagues - you will be the moderator with
> privileges - but you can 
> > > reassign privileges. Try it out for Africa. The
> person will need to 
> > > go
> > > to: http://www.elluminate.com/support to see if
> > they
> > > have the Java
> > > modules. You too will have to go there to
> convert your Powerpoints 
> > > to .wbd (whiteboard) format. ENJOY!!!
> > >  
> > > Asif
> > >  
> > >  <http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS>
> > > http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS
> > >  <http://www.trainerspod.com/community>
> > > http://www.trainerspod.com/community
> > >  <http://www.trainerspod.com/info>
> > > http://www.trainerspod.com/info
> > > 
> > > Please consider the environment before printing
> > this
> > > message.
> > >  
> > >  
> > >   _____
> > > 
> > > From: Jeff Buderer
> > > [mailto:jeff at onevillagefoundation.org]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:16 PM
> > > To: asif.daya at trainerspod.com;
> > > wsfii-discuss at lists.okfn.org
> > > Subject: RE: Trainerspot Webinars: A Potential
> > tool
> > > to spread wsfii
> > > ideas to Africa and Developing World Asif,
> > > 
> > > >The train begins in Kenya and moves towards the
> > > rural areas whereby
> > > medical help is provided. I would like to add
> ICT help >and 
> > > hopefully through the grant get broadband. I
> would need to hire 
> > > locals for the portions of the grant.
> 
=== message truncated ===

Vickram

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