[SAX] Re: [wsfii-discuss] WSFII event in Catalonia rescheduled to July 12-14

Ramon Roca ramon.roca at guifi.net
Fri Mar 30 21:39:21 UTC 2007


Ooops! I think this could be also interesting to the list and wasn't 
there :)
I'm in particular interested in to know what the people think about 
running a "discovery map" kind of workshop in Catalonia.

En/na Ramon Roca ha escrit:
> Hi James!
>
> Yes, we have to give more information.
> There is a group of people here who are working on logistics, schedule 
> etc...
> There is already something here:
> http://guifi.net/node/7698 (sorry, not translated yet)... however in 
> advance, the idea is to combine different things, such as:
> -Divulgative sessions
> -Hands-on labs
> -Field visits
> ... And a discussion all-together workshop, conducted in several 
> sessions in order to draw a "discovery map" (community goals and 
> objectives and wishes, technical / social / organizational pains, and 
> planned solutions tactics and strategies for solving them), with the 
> idea of having an all together brainstorm which helps to understand 
> who is doing what and why and find out if can be any synergy to work 
> together without reinventing the wheel. Also help in distinguishing 
> wishes from real things, but recognizing how the things link between 
> them. Something like this is only a good idea if there is people 
> coming willing to participate actively thinking that it makes sense... 
> please give me feedback on this!!!!
>
> All the program will be however open and we plan to make a call for 
> papers. So will be not the idea that we will provide all the content.
>
> Only problem is how busy we are currently here. We are experiencing an 
> amazing huge demand of people getting connected into out main user 
> loop which is growing exponentially at a rates of 100 to 200 new nodes 
> per month. Also new communities willing to join (right now there are 
> some folks willing to take over Barcelona city), etc.. which is good 
> because means a good momentum, but bad in a sense that is severely 
> stressing our human bandwith. Very few time for developing and 
> documenting... any help will be very wellcome!
>
> About the progress on the apps, as always, not at the speed we want, 
> but some significant steps have been succeeded: Now we are also 
> supporting autoconf of more devices (Routerboards), and we are already 
> exporting all the network information with a CNML draft, and this is 
> being already used by our distributed network of servers which are 
> monitoring the network usage and availability. That was a key in the 
> growth because our servers got collapsed when they had to collect 
> statistics for thousands of devices.
> Next major milestone will be enable the ability to de-centralize the 
> database management and avoid the single central database. That will 
> make the tools quite more easy to be reusable and replicable.
>
> We are seeing that reusability is a key to enable growth and help to 
> develop communities in new areas without having to increase the human 
> bandwith at the same rate, humans doesn't grow exponentially, do the 
> dinosaurs???  ;)
>
> About Berlin, I can't tell you yet. I don't think all days, but maybe 
> I can drop me sometime there?
>
> Cheers and hope to see all of you soon!
> Ramon
>
>
>
>
> En/na james stevens ha escrit:
>> Hi Ramon,
>>
>> So pleased to see you have set dates for your event in Catalonia, you 
>> mention below that more info to follow, did I miss this announcement 
>> already?
>>
>> When we met in London last year you introduced us to your meta 
>> configuration toolbox at http://guifi.net and we talked about many 
>> aspects of the package particularly in regard to description of local 
>> network services and how to maintain node centric link listings to 
>> expose local content, have you had any more thoughts about service 
>> discovery and zero conf ?
>>
>> With regard to evolving networks here in the UK we would like to talk 
>> with you again prior to July about iteration/mirror of your system at 
>> our hosting here so we can work toward more widespread integration of 
>> the many open wireless networks and community infrastructure projects 
>> and help your development where possible. What are your plans in 
>> general regards your codebase?
>>
>> I am looking forward to the wireless community weekend in Berlin at 
>> the end of April (26-29), will you be attending..?
>>
>> easy
>>
>> James
>> http://consume.net http://boundless.coop http://spc.org
>>
>> Ramon Roca wrote:
>>>
>>> To avoid conflicts, we've rescheduled the event in Catalonia. Just 
>>> hoping that will be no conflicts now.
>>> Details (agenda, logistics...) will follow.
>>>
>>> The main idea, as we have done with our local SAX events before, 
>>> will be share our experiences as a guifi.net, and all together, to 
>>> build foundations for gaining momentum in building communities 
>>> around free, neutral and people powered networks and surpassing 
>>> difficulties, not just in terms of technical issues, also whathever 
>>> is around that.
>>>
>>> The idea is doing that in a debate/workshop kind of sessions. We're 
>>> open to any suggestions or help in organization. Agenda might be 
>>> compressed or expanded depending on the final content.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ramon Roca
>>>
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