[MyData & Open Data] this group's thoughts on definitions

Fri Dec 20 11:00:27 UTC 2013

Hello,
While there may or may not be some rhetorical fine tuning to do with the
term "my data", I think the definition posted on the website is quite
functional. Suggestions to define "my data" on the basis of individuals'
rights or agency will be strategically limiting.

If descriptive, an agency-based definition would exclude a lot of
relevant data that is collected by third parties without any direct
"data transaction", and about which individuals (or groups for that
matter) may have no knowledge. As the fields of urban analytics and
remote sensing continue to develop this will become more pressing, but
even now, the mechanisms through with (big) data is culled and exchanged
complicates a definition based on individuals rights or agency over that
data.

If prescriptive, we're left arguing tautologically (ppl should be able
to agency over their data! what's their data? data they should able to
exercise agency over!).

Thinking about how the "my data" concept would be mobilized in
Crawford's notion
<https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2325784> of big
data due process highlights this tension nicely, I think.
Cheers,
c
On 12/20/13 9:08 AM, Andy Turner wrote:
> Hi
>
> I suggested that "MyData" is personal data about an individual which they control ownership and access control rights over. I'm not sure about the ownership part, mainly because I was thinking about what happens to these data after the individual dies... Perhaps better is:
> "MyData" is personal data about an individual which they have rights to share and restrict the use and access control rights over.
>
> This latter attempt is a bit more positive and somehow provides the right for the data owner (the individual person of the personal data) to licence their use even after their death.
>
> The suggestions here contained are in comments to the Google Docs Document.
>
> I read the rest of the thread to date, but I thought this was the best place to make this post.
>
> HTH
>
> Andy
> http://www.geog.leeds.ac.uk/people/a.turner/index.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mydata-open-data [mailto:mydata-open-data-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of stef
> Sent: 19 December 2013 12:02
> To: Sam Smith
> Cc: mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org
> Subject: Re: [MyData & Open Data] this group's thoughts on definitions
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:40:14PM +0000, Sam Smith wrote:
>> OKF have created a page for this group here:
>> 	http://personal-data.okfn.org
> it defines "my data"
>
>> "My Data is information about me personally, where I am identified in 
>> some way, regardless of who collects it"
> - which i believe is a very negative term.
>   
> similarly to the dichotomy between free and open software. while "private data" is emphasizing the ethical aspects, "my data" is like the consciously unethical californian profit-making reinterpretation of that.
>
> please remove this definition and use "private data"
>
>> I'm sure we'll have comments, which anyone can leave here. I'll ping OKF and find out what their process is for changing things:
>> 	
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZfCBi8W91m7_SIR7lwyOy9d0cmw5DUj7F
>> Cjg1cPXbc/edit
>
> haven't/couldn't check that for obvious reasons.
>
>> (no login should be required to edit that, and OKF have decommissioned 
>> their public etherpad which I used to be able to create things on)
> very sad.
>
> best,s
>
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