[OKCon-Programme] Speaker from Google?

Daniel Dietrich daniel.dietrich at okfn.org
Thu Mar 24 20:42:13 GMT 2011


David, 

Please go ahead and invite Brewster Kale in the name of OKCon 2011 Programme Committee. Would be great if he could come. Please also put me in CC.

Daniel



On 24.03.2011, at 20:55, David Bollier wrote:

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> Dear Daniel,
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> I would definitely invite either Robert Darnton and/or Brewster Kahle, both of whom are key movers and highly knowledgeable.  I have no idea if either would accept or be able to participate, however.  I would be happy to invite Brewster, or to have you do so (brewster at archive.org).  As for Darnton, I don't know him at all.  You can probably locate his email via the Harvard library website.
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> If you really want someone from Google, you might consider Alan Davidson, Director of Public Policy, Google US (based in WDC), who has a broad policy perspective on everything that Google does.  Or you may want to invite project-specific Google people.
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> David
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> On 3/24/11 3:43 PM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>> Dear David, Chris, Jim, All,
>> 
>> Thanks for your comments. I do agree that the position of Google in the is more than ambivalence, its problematic. But also Google is too big to ignore and this is why I would like to invite them ... not for propaganda but for a critical discourse. For the later people like Robert Darnton and / or Brewster Kahle are key! So I would suggest to invite both sides and try to have areal controversial discussion.
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>> @David: do you have contacts with one of the mentioned? Do you think its worth contacting them?
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>> I think this issue would be of high interest to the local German audience, since we have had lots of debate about google books and the related copyright issues.
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>> Regards
>> Daniel
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>> On 24.03.2011, at 20:29, David Bollier wrote:
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>>> I agree with Chris.  Why not invite someone like Harvard University librarian Robert Darnton, who is proposing a digital public library as an alternative to the Google books project, or Brewster Kahle of the Internet Archive, who has led similar efforts among universities to band together and share digitized books rather than ceding this task to Google?
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>>> Google is too important to ignore, but its actual commitment to free/open should be closely scrutinized especially if better alternatives exist.
>>> 
>>> David Bollier
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>>> On 3/24/11 3:18 PM, Chris Taggart wrote:
>>>> I have a bit of a prob with some of Google's stuff and its position on open data generally (i don't think it cares about it except insofar it helps its business goals/model.
>>>> 
>>>> That said I think Google Refine is excellent and being a tool rather than a data store doesn't have the problems mentioned above.
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>>>> Just my 2c worth.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
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>>>> On 24 Mar 2011 17:42, "Daniel Dietrich"<daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>  wrote:
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>> 
>>>>> we are looking into the possibility to invite some one from Google to OKCon
>>>>> 
>>>>> Out of my head there are several Google Projects with relevance to OKCon 2011 topics, such as:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Google Books http://books.google.com/
>>>>> - Google UNESCO World Heritage http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/unesco/
>>>>> - Google Art http://www.googleartproject.com/
>>>>> - Google data liberation front http://www.dataliberation.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Google public data explorer http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
>>>>> - Google open data toolkit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/
>>>>> - Google refine http://code.google.com/p/google-refine/
>>>>> 
>>>>> But this is of corse very vague.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have suggestions or could even point me to people involved in these projects this would be incredibly useful! Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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