[Okfn-pk] Suggestions by Mr. Mohsin

Wed Mar 11 07:00:45 UTC 2015

it can be an excellent idea/project.
I checked the data at publicbodies.org/ - for UK, US and EU - it is very
incomplete.
Just names of the bodies and websites. Addresses and many other attributes
are missing.

Anyways we can start for PK. And I think a Wiki style is much better than
previously discussed options - because in this way - the updation of data
is possible in a much better way. I had created a wiki for a project
http://certificationsdirectory.com/ and no matter how limited the scope is
- it is much convenient to keep it updated and collaborate with a team. But
still it is a suggestion.

regards

===
Mohsin Khawaja
+92-3223225433
http://linkedin.com/in/khmohsin

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, it is indeed a good project to start but as per my personal opinion
> we first need to gather and list all the Public Bodies in Pakistan —that is
> government-run or -controlled organizations. Examples include federal as
> well as provincial ministries or departments, and state-run organizations.
> At present there is no such database containing Name, Address, and Contact
> No. of Public Bodies in Pakistan. One such project of Open Knowledge
> (Intl.) is running at the following link:-
>
> http://publicbodies.org/
>
> Your suggestions in this regard will be highly appreciated.
>
>
> *Nouman Nazim*
>
> Ambassador / Group Lead
> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
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> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:51 PM, mohsin khawaja <email at mohsinkhawaja.me>
> wrote:
>
>> then do you think it is a good project to start with for OKFN-PK or not ?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Mohsin, Yes I have worked as NGOs Monitoring Officer in Pakistan
>>> under Ministry of Interior but before coming to the point I would like to
>>> clear 2-3 things which will help you in achieving the planned tasks. There
>>> is no single body of law that governs NGOs in Pakistan. There are
>>> between 10 to 18 different laws in Pakistan that may govern an NGO. First
>>> of all SECP register nationwide Non-Profit Companies under Section 42 of
>>> the Companies Ordinance, 1984. There are three other major laws dealing
>>> with registration of NGOs / Non-profit organizations in Pakistan which are
>>> as under:-
>>>
>>> i) Voluntary Social Welfare Agencies, 1961
>>> ii) Societies Registration Act, 1860
>>> iii) Trust Act, 1882
>>>
>>> Registration cases falling under the laws mentioned at serial no. (i)
>>> and (ii) are undertaken by the Registrar of NGOs appointed in each District
>>> of Pakistan. Whereas, registration cases under Trust Act (sr. no. iii) are
>>> managed by Tehsildar Office located in all the Districts of Pakistan.
>>>
>>> As regard International NGOs interested in working under Pakistan, they
>>> are required to obtain approval from the Establishment Division as well as
>>> thorough clearance from National Security Agencies.
>>>
>>> Keeping in view the fact that there are multiple authorities dealing
>>> with registration of NGOs / Non-Profit Organizations in Pakistan at
>>> National as well as District level, there is no single database containing
>>> record / registration details of all those NGOs. Many private organizations
>>> tried to collect the record about NGOs registered / working in different
>>> cities / villages of Pakistan which can be found online at following links:-
>>>
>>> http://www.ngos.org.pk/
>>> http://www.unesco.org.pk/documents/Directory%20of%20NGOs.pdf
>>>
>>> http://www.ngoworldpk.com/ngo-introduction/download-full-ngo-directory-(pakistan)/
>>>
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/thecivilsocietyforumofpakistan/Pakistan-nonprofits-directory
>>>
>>> Above mentioned links does not provide the complete list of all the NGOs
>>> registered / working in Pakistan. Total number of NGOs registered in
>>> Islamabad only are more than 3000 (list can be produced). An estimated
>>> number of NGOs registered / working in whole Pakistan is 30,000+ and at
>>> present there is no single database available with any Government Agency
>>> which contains all those NGOs.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Nouman Nazim*
>>>
>>> Ambassador / Group Lead
>>> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
>>> M: +92 336 5101166
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>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:00 PM, mohsin khawaja <email at mohsinkhawaja.me>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> AoA,
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that you worked as "NGOs Monitoring Officer" - a while back i
>>>> was looking for a complete list of NGOs in Pakistan - but couldn't find it.
>>>> Can you help me get this dataset ? i will try to share and promote it.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>> Mohsin Khawaja
>>>> +92-3223225433
>>>> http://linkedin.com/in/khmohsin
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Mohsin,
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all welcome to this discussion list. I am reproducing your
>>>>> suggestions, from my personal email, here:-
>>>>>
>>>>> i) Ask corporations, specially dealing with food and health care
>>>>> products, to open their manufacturing & raw material policies [data] so
>>>>> that consumers can make rational choices rather than emotional following of
>>>>> brands under the influence of advertisement.
>>>>>
>>>>> ii) An online platform / forum / wiki to raise public awareness about
>>>>> how Government works in Pakistan and provide answers to frequently asked
>>>>> questions about Government functions / services.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the current members of Open Knowledge Pakistan (OKP) discussion
>>>>> list are requested to provide their views / opinions on the suggestions of
>>>>> Mr. Mohsin and how Open Knowledge Pakistan can undertake such initiatives.
>>>>>
>>>>> My opinions in this regard are as under:-
>>>>>
>>>>> i) We can establish Open Product Data Working Group under the umbrella
>>>>> of OKP to campaign for Open Product Data in Pakistan by contacting and
>>>>> writing to leading local products manufacturers and request them to Open
>>>>> their products data. There is the working group titled: "Open Product
>>>>> Data" working under Open Knowledge (Intl.) to build a public database of
>>>>> product data. Here are the links of their websites:-
>>>>> http://product.okfn.org and http://product-open-data.com. After
>>>>> obtaining data from local products manufactures we can add that to Global
>>>>> Open Product Data database besides establishing our own local portal which
>>>>> will allow users to easily access data.
>>>>>
>>>>> ii) As regard public awareness on how Government Work, we can launch
>>>>> an online portal like following:- http://answers.oaklandnet.com/ to
>>>>> answer questions about different functions / services provided by the
>>>>> Government of Pakistan. The aforementioned website is using open source
>>>>> platform titled Honolulu Answers
>>>>> <http://www.codeforamerica.org/apps/honolulu-answers/> and Ms. Sheba
>>>>> Najmi, Founder, Code for Pakistan <http://codeforpakistan.org> played
>>>>> a vital role in developing this platform. We can deploy Honolulu
>>>>> Answers <http://www.codeforamerica.org/apps/honolulu-answers/> in
>>>>> Pakistan and request Ms. Sheba Najmi for her suggestions / guidance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nouman Nazim*
>>>>> Ambassador / Group Lead
>>>>> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org/>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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