[Okfn-pk] Suggestions by Mr. Mohsin

Wed Mar 11 07:57:28 UTC 2015

Sounds Great, let's get started.
But.. Where do we begin and What I can do/Contribute ?

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Mohsin Khawaja
+92-3223225433
http://linkedin.com/in/khmohsin

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the prompt reply. Well, one important aspect of Open Data is
> that it should be machine readable so that developers / coders can access
> it programmatically and build useful apps upon it. Machine readable data
> formats include XML, JSON, CSV whereas closed file formats include .PDF,
> .DOC etc.
>
> We should start gathering data about Public Bodies in Pakistan by creating
> an online Excel Spreadsheet on Google Docs. We can convert Excel
> Spreadsheet into CSV, JSON or XML to make it machine readable. We will
> upload same data on a local (our own) instance of CKAN. CKAN comes with an
> API and it will allow civic coders to access that that from our portal and
> develop web / mobile app upon it. You can access or share that data on wiki
> or any portal you want as the data will be in open format and free to share.
>
> Looking forward to hear from you.
>
>
> *Nouman Nazim*
>
> Ambassador / Group Lead
> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
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> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:00 PM, mohsin khawaja <email at mohsinkhawaja.me>
> wrote:
>
>> it can be an excellent idea/project.
>> I checked the data at publicbodies.org/ - for UK, US and EU - it is very
>> incomplete.
>> Just names of the bodies and websites. Addresses and many other
>> attributes are missing.
>>
>> Anyways we can start for PK. And I think a Wiki style is much better than
>> previously discussed options - because in this way - the updation of data
>> is possible in a much better way. I had created a wiki for a project
>> http://certificationsdirectory.com/ and no matter how limited the scope
>> is - it is much convenient to keep it updated and collaborate with a team.
>> But still it is a suggestion.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> ===
>> Mohsin Khawaja
>> +92-3223225433
>> http://linkedin.com/in/khmohsin
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it is indeed a good project to start but as per my personal
>>> opinion we first need to gather and list all the Public Bodies in
>>> Pakistan —that is government-run or -controlled organizations. Examples
>>> include federal as well as provincial ministries or departments, and
>>> state-run organizations. At present there is no such database containing
>>> Name, Address, and Contact No. of Public Bodies in Pakistan. One such
>>> project of Open Knowledge (Intl.) is running at the following link:-
>>>
>>> http://publicbodies.org/
>>>
>>> Your suggestions in this regard will be highly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Nouman Nazim*
>>>
>>> Ambassador / Group Lead
>>> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
>>> M: +92 336 5101166
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>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:51 PM, mohsin khawaja <email at mohsinkhawaja.me>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> then do you think it is a good project to start with for OKFN-PK or not
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Mohsin, Yes I have worked as NGOs Monitoring Officer in Pakistan
>>>>> under Ministry of Interior but before coming to the point I would like to
>>>>> clear 2-3 things which will help you in achieving the planned tasks. There
>>>>> is no single body of law that governs NGOs in Pakistan. There are
>>>>> between 10 to 18 different laws in Pakistan that may govern an NGO. First
>>>>> of all SECP register nationwide Non-Profit Companies under Section 42 of
>>>>> the Companies Ordinance, 1984. There are three other major laws dealing
>>>>> with registration of NGOs / Non-profit organizations in Pakistan which are
>>>>> as under:-
>>>>>
>>>>> i) Voluntary Social Welfare Agencies, 1961
>>>>> ii) Societies Registration Act, 1860
>>>>> iii) Trust Act, 1882
>>>>>
>>>>> Registration cases falling under the laws mentioned at serial no. (i)
>>>>> and (ii) are undertaken by the Registrar of NGOs appointed in each District
>>>>> of Pakistan. Whereas, registration cases under Trust Act (sr. no. iii) are
>>>>> managed by Tehsildar Office located in all the Districts of Pakistan.
>>>>>
>>>>> As regard International NGOs interested in working under Pakistan,
>>>>> they are required to obtain approval from the Establishment Division as
>>>>> well as thorough clearance from National Security Agencies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keeping in view the fact that there are multiple authorities dealing
>>>>> with registration of NGOs / Non-Profit Organizations in Pakistan at
>>>>> National as well as District level, there is no single database containing
>>>>> record / registration details of all those NGOs. Many private organizations
>>>>> tried to collect the record about NGOs registered / working in different
>>>>> cities / villages of Pakistan which can be found online at following links:-
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ngos.org.pk/
>>>>> http://www.unesco.org.pk/documents/Directory%20of%20NGOs.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ngoworldpk.com/ngo-introduction/download-full-ngo-directory-(pakistan)/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/thecivilsocietyforumofpakistan/Pakistan-nonprofits-directory
>>>>>
>>>>> Above mentioned links does not provide the complete list of all the
>>>>> NGOs registered / working in Pakistan. Total number of NGOs registered in
>>>>> Islamabad only are more than 3000 (list can be produced). An estimated
>>>>> number of NGOs registered / working in whole Pakistan is 30,000+ and at
>>>>> present there is no single database available with any Government Agency
>>>>> which contains all those NGOs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nouman Nazim*
>>>>>
>>>>> Ambassador / Group Lead
>>>>> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
>>>>> M: +92 336 5101166
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:00 PM, mohsin khawaja <
>>>>> email at mohsinkhawaja.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> AoA,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed that you worked as "NGOs Monitoring Officer" - a while back
>>>>>> i was looking for a complete list of NGOs in Pakistan - but couldn't find
>>>>>> it. Can you help me get this dataset ? i will try to share and promote it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>> Mohsin Khawaja
>>>>>> +92-3223225433
>>>>>> http://linkedin.com/in/khmohsin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Mohsin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First of all welcome to this discussion list. I am reproducing your
>>>>>>> suggestions, from my personal email, here:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i) Ask corporations, specially dealing with food and health care
>>>>>>> products, to open their manufacturing & raw material policies [data] so
>>>>>>> that consumers can make rational choices rather than emotional following of
>>>>>>> brands under the influence of advertisement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ii) An online platform / forum / wiki to raise public awareness
>>>>>>> about how Government works in Pakistan and provide answers
>>>>>>> to frequently asked questions about Government functions / services.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the current members of Open Knowledge Pakistan (OKP) discussion
>>>>>>> list are requested to provide their views / opinions on the suggestions of
>>>>>>> Mr. Mohsin and how Open Knowledge Pakistan can undertake such initiatives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My opinions in this regard are as under:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i) We can establish Open Product Data Working Group under the
>>>>>>> umbrella of OKP to campaign for Open Product Data in Pakistan by contacting
>>>>>>> and writing to leading local products manufacturers and request them to
>>>>>>> Open their products data. There is the working group titled: "Open
>>>>>>> Product Data" working under Open Knowledge (Intl.) to build a public
>>>>>>> database of product data. Here are the links of their websites:-
>>>>>>> http://product.okfn.org and http://product-open-data.com. After
>>>>>>> obtaining data from local products manufactures we can add that to Global
>>>>>>> Open Product Data database besides establishing our own local portal which
>>>>>>> will allow users to easily access data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ii) As regard public awareness on how Government Work, we can
>>>>>>> launch an online portal like following:-
>>>>>>> http://answers.oaklandnet.com/ to answer questions about different
>>>>>>> functions / services provided by the Government of Pakistan. The
>>>>>>> aforementioned website is using open source platform titled Honolulu
>>>>>>> Answers <http://www.codeforamerica.org/apps/honolulu-answers/> and
>>>>>>> Ms. Sheba Najmi, Founder, Code for Pakistan
>>>>>>> <http://codeforpakistan.org> played a vital role in developing this
>>>>>>> platform. We can deploy Honolulu Answers
>>>>>>> <http://www.codeforamerica.org/apps/honolulu-answers/> in Pakistan
>>>>>>> and request Ms. Sheba Najmi for her suggestions / guidance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Nouman Nazim*
>>>>>>> Ambassador / Group Lead
>>>>>>> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org/>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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