[open-science] Is It Open Data? status?

Sat Sep 1 11:07:17 UTC 2012

Hi All

The IIOD? site has been retired and archived during a recent OKFN website
clear up (see Rufus' email below). I haven't tried to make a query but I'm
assuming you no longer can. I agree with Peter that the project definitely
still has scope and with some care, attention and publicity  (and possibly
funding) could rise again and have been meaning to contact the list about
this so thanks for taking the initiative Egon!

   We can definitely discuss at the next working group meeting, which I'll
   set for after OKFest and maybe get some people looking at it during the
   October working group hackday.

   Meanwhile, if everyone could make their thoughts known on this that
   would be great - do you think the site is useful in its current form? What
   changes would you like to see? Would you be willing to help move it forward?

For those who have not come across Is It Open Data, the site is still live
in read-only mode so check it out. http://www.isitopendata.org/

Jenny

   ---------- Forwarded message ----------
   From: Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
   Date: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:21 PM
   Subject: [okfn-discuss] Archiving and retiring a few OKFN sites:
   http://getthedata.org/, http://ideas.okfn.org, http://isitopendata.org/
   To: okfn-discuss <okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org>

   Hi All,

   I just wanted to let people know that we have retired (and archived) a
   few sites:

   http://getthedata.org/
   http://ideas.okfn.org
   http://isitopendata.org/

   Note that all sites will be preserved online in read-only mode so no
   content has been lost.

   In all cases the immediate reason is that we are re-organizing and
   rationalizing our sysadmin setup as we move hosting provider and
   archiving these sites allowed us to decommission the underlying web
   application. The more general reasons are:

   GetTheData: interesting experiment, initially quite active but lately
   much less so and increasing spam issues plus the underlying software
   no longer seems actively maintained (OSQA). Going forward we want this
   either to StackOverflow or integrate with something like School of
   Data or DataHub

   ideas.okfn.org: the underlying software (OSQA) no longer actively
   maintained. ideas.okfn.org has been very useful but we think we can
   support similarly functionality using other services going forward.

   isitopendata.org: IsItOpenData has served its purpose incredibly well
   and is now relatively little used. It is reasonably complex bespoke
   web-app so retiring it means we have one less moving part to maintain.
   In addition, should the functionality provided turn out to be widely
   missed we could resurrect it as part of other sites (notably the
   DataHub)

   Lastly, please note that we are migrating our Wordpress "farm" which
   runs many of our sites (okfn.org/ and *.okfn.org among others) this
   Wednesday so there may be some brief downtime [1].

   Regards,

   Rufus

   [1]: http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/okfn-help/2012-August/002057.html

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On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Egon Willighagen <
> egon.willighagen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have not looked at Is It Open Data? recently... honestly, the lack
>> of response we get is depressing...
>>
>
> Yes. But not surprising.
>
> We don't win everything first time. I reckon I have launched about 10
> significant tools on the Internet over the last 20 years and about 30% have
> taken off. I think that's what we can expect. Some need funding.
>
> I suspect that IIOD was launched in advance of its time. Its time is
> coming. We may need to reconfigure.
>
> It's the sort of thing that is now very relevant to funders' requirements
> for ensuring that their funded projects create Open Data. I and others are
> talking with funders about how OKF tools can be relevant to their
> needs.based
>
> I was inspired by the success of MySociety in creating various information
> tools such as WhatDoTheyKnow (FOI) and WriteToThem MPs) and suggested IIOD.
> I am grateful to those who put in the work - it was significant. But WDTK
> and WTT have major advantages:
> * responses are required by law
> * MS are funded
> * they are approved by government.
>
> None of this applies at present to IIOD. But it may. Substitute
> "government" by "researchFunder" and it starts to look very valuable and
> feasible. I think the next stage may be to get Funder sponsorship
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Murray-Rust
> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> University of Cambridge
> CB2 1EW, UK
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